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Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013


Contents


Portfolio Question Time


Culture and External Affairs


Diplomats (Meetings)



1. To ask the Scottish Government what international diplomats it has met recently and what issues were discussed. (S4O-01799)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

Scottish ministers meet diplomats regularly to discuss matters of mutual interest. Ministers have recently held meetings in Scotland with a range of diplomats, including the ambassadors of Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria and Switzerland, in which a range of topics were discussed to strengthen the links between Scotland and those countries. The First Minister met European Union ambassadors last week in London. The Minister for External Affairs and International Development met the consul general for Iraq on 19 February, when they discussed the links between Scotland and Iraq. This afternoon, the First Minister and I will meet Oscar Kerketta, the new Indian consul general, to welcome him to Scotland and to discuss links between Scotland and India.

Mark McDonald

When the cabinet secretary next meets diplomats from Namibia and Togo, will she apologise for the sneering way that their nations were dismissed by Johann Lamont recently at First Minister’s question time? Will she also apologise to Denmark for the coalition Government’s sneering dismissal of that country in the papers recently and to diplomats in Ireland and Iceland for the “arc of insolvency” slur that has been propagated by Labour politicians? Will she join me in calling for the anti-independence parties to stop insulting other nations in order to undermine Scotland’s ability to govern itself as those proudly independent nations do?

Fiona Hyslop

I very much appreciate the point that Mark McDonald makes. We all have a responsibility to support and build relations for the future and in the present. Commercial and other interests are important. I assure members that any comments that are made in this chamber or elsewhere are heard in other countries. We all have to be responsible, as we will all be judged by how our country is seen internationally.


Television (URTV stations)



2. To ask the Scottish Government what plans it has to secure a connected network of local URTV stations and in what timescale. (S4O-01800)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

The Scottish Government has met the URTV broadband network of community-owned, hyper-local television channels. Nesta is currently running a programme of funding 10 pilots across the United Kingdom, three of which are in Scotland. Creative Scotland has partnered with Nesta in Scotland and provided 50 per cent of the stage 1 project costs of the three participants.

I am delighted that URTV was one of the three successful applicants in Scotland and that it secured a £50,000 grant from NESTA to build a network of community-owned, not-for-profit, hyper-local news channels.

The Scottish Government is also supporting the Annan broadband pilot in the south of Scotland as part of the digital strategy. The URTV model is an important component of the Annan broadband pilot, as it is an effective means of encouraging people in Annandale to use the internet and access public services and information online. Work is under way to embed the project in the local community.

Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)

I thank the cabinet secretary for her very welcome answer. Television is about more than entertainment, and the installation of super-fast broadband affords the opportunity to develop an interconnecting network of local TV stations. That would allow the fast sharing of best practice across Scotland and contribute to efficiency savings and major customer benefits in the provision of services such as preventative healthcare, police and fire services and many other public sector offerings.

Will the cabinet secretary write to all local authorities to seek information on their intentions and their progress towards the development of local TV provision?

Fiona Hyslop

The member is quite right. Indeed, the first director general of the BBC talked about the importance of public service broadcasting’s mission not just to entertain but to inform and educate.

The possibilities of broadband are extensive in this area. Of course, the Scottish Government is committing more than £240 million of public funding to the step change 2015 programme, which will deliver a step change in next-generation broadband that will particularly focus on rural areas. Obviously, we will work closely with local authorities on that. Dumfries and Galloway Council is a co-funder of the example that I gave of the Annan broadband pilot in the south of Scotland. There are extensive opportunities for public services and television as part of that partnership and we will encourage local authorities to see the opportunities in that way.


Shambellie House



3. To ask the Scottish Government when the feasibility study of future uses of Shambellie house will be published. (S4O-01801)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

I want to see a sustainable future for Shambellie house, which provides benefits for the local community. The Scottish Government has, therefore, provided £20,000 to fund a feasibility study into the future use of the house, to be facilitated by National Museums Scotland. I expect the study to report over the next few months, once the relevant parties have all participated. I also strongly encourage National Museums Scotland and the local authority to work together on developing improved access to the national collections in the wider Dumfries and Galloway area.

Jim Hume

Does the cabinet secretary agree that the time for any kind of study was before Shambellie house was threatened with closure, not after the doors had been bolted for the last time? That way, a means better to promote the museum might have been identified.

Will the cabinet secretary assure me that Shambellie house will remain a resource for the people of Dumfries and Galloway to continue attracting visitors to the area? Will she also provide details of the roving exhibitions that we can look forward to in Dumfries and Galloway, as promised by National Museums Scotland?

Fiona Hyslop

On the latter point, I make it clear that I expect not only roaming but regular exhibitions to be provided throughout the region.

I am committed to Shambellie house. As I have said on a number of occasions in the chamber, the resource should be available to the local community. However, it will take all partners to come together to achieve that. Advice from the local members as to how it can best be used might be welcome. They could also provide advice on whether they, local councillors or Dumfries and Galloway Council centrally would provide the best steer on that.

Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)

During earlier discussions and debate on the issue, the cabinet secretary was at pains to point out that she could not direct NMS towards any particular course of action, although she wanted to ensure that Dumfries and Galloway was given what she referred to as a better offering from NMS than the simple closure of the national museum of costume. How will she measure the eventual offering that NMS proposes? What steps will and can she take to make certain that a better offering is delivered?

Fiona Hyslop

I have made it quite clear to National Museums Scotland that I expect a better offer for Dumfries and Galloway. Other examples in places such as Kilmarnock and the northern isles show that there have been much-improved opportunities for sharing and, as we have just discussed, more regular and roaming exhibitions.

As part of ensuring that there is a better offer, we must address two issues. One concerns the wider Dumfries and Galloway area. The other concerns the commitment to Shambellie house being used for the local community. We must ensure that that service exists.

On measurement, I will be quite clear to National Museums Scotland about what I expect. In the feasibility study, I expect opportunities to emerge in both the areas that I mentioned.


China



4. To ask the Scottish Government how it will implement its working with China strategy. (S4O-01802)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

The Scottish Government’s “Working with China” publication itself sets out how implementation and delivery will be taken forward. It will be for stakeholders throughout Scotland to work in partnership to achieve the objectives of the China strategy. The Scottish Government’s role is to support that engagement where it can and to encourage greater co-operation between partners.

Liz Smith

I put on record my thanks to the cabinet secretary for showing interest in the area and our collective thanks to Judith McClure and the Scotland China education network.

Will the cabinet secretary tell us a little bit more about how the Scottish Government intends to develop links with local authorities and local businesses to find more people who can help to teach Chinese and help young people to learn about China? More specifically, how will it engage with finding more teachers of Chinese?

Fiona Hyslop

Liz Smith makes an important point. I also echo her thanks to Judith McClure and the SCEN for their work.

There are currently 13 teachers of Mandarin in local authority schools. That compares with eight in 2008-09. I share with Liz Smith the view that we need to increase the opportunities for those who can share language skills.

I spoke at the cross-party group on China recently. Part of our discussion was about a hub that would help to connect people who are doing work in China, whether local authorities or businesses. That should also provide opportunities to identify skills. That is work in progress, but Liz Smith is right to identify the need to mobilise the talent that we have in Scotland to achieve the step change that we need in language skills.

Question 6, in the name of Tavish Scott, has not been lodged. The member has provided an explanation—[Interruption.] I am sorry, I am ahead of myself again. I call Colin Keir to ask question 5.


China



5. To ask the Scottish Government what recent contact it has had with representatives of China and what issues were discussed. (S4O-01803)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

Following the publication of the Scottish Government’s China strategy, “Working with China”, the Chinese consul general wrote to the First Minister in December 2012 to highlight the fact that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Beijing had positively received the strategy. I met a delegation from the Beijing municipality that month to discuss possible collaboration across culture and tourism interests, as well as trade and industry.

The Minister for External Affairs and International Development met the Chinese consul general on 10 October 2012 to consider closer co-operation between Scotland and China. I attended a dinner at the Chinese consulate in May 2012 to discuss a range of issues, including strengthening relations between Scotland and China.

What is the Scottish Government doing to take advantage of the improving cross-strait relationship between mainland China and Taiwan to increase trade and culture links with Taiwan?

Fiona Hyslop

Scottish exports to Taiwan are extensive. We have strong links with Taiwan on trade, tourism and higher education. We estimate that exports to Taiwan in the five years to 2011 were worth about £955 million. Taiwan was the fifth-ranked nation by value for exports of Scotch whisky.

Scottish Development International has had an office in Taipei City for more than 15 years and it continues to work closely with potential prospects from Taiwan. Renewables, life sciences, information technology and finance are key sectors for the future. As for culture, there was a Taiwanese performance of “King Lear” during the Edinburgh international festival in 2011, which was well received.

I have already explained about question 6.


Robert the Bruce (Sculpture and Visitor Centre at Turnberry)

Adam Ingram (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)



7. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will support Carrick community councils forum in creating a lion of Alba sculpture and visitor centre at Turnberry, birthplace of Robert the Bruce, as a permanent legacy of the 2014 year of homecoming. (S4O-01805)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

We recognise the strong associations that Carrick has with Robert the Bruce and we support the community in planning to celebrate them. I wrote to Councillor Alec Oattes of South Ayrshire Council in August and December last year to direct him to key contacts and relevant funding sources. I hope that Carrick community councils forum can take this interesting and appropriate project forward.

Adam Ingram

I thank the cabinet secretary for her positive response. I understand that much of the funding for Robert the Bruce-related events for the 2014 Bannockburn anniversary has focused on the Stirling area, for obvious reasons. Will she give an undertaking that the Scottish Government and its agencies, such as Creative Scotland and EventScotland, will engage with the significant efforts that communities in Carrick are making to raise awareness of and celebrate the area’s links to Robert the Bruce, such as through the creation of a grand pageant of his life at Culzean castle?

Fiona Hyslop

I have heard of proposals for the grand pageant, which is innovative as a celebration and as a way of promoting future tourism opportunities. I encourage the partners, including South Ayrshire Council and the local member, to engage with agencies to access appropriate funding. If Adam Ingram would like to meet agencies such as Creative Scotland and EventScotland to take forward plans, I will facilitate that.


International Development Priorities (Independent Scotland)



8. To ask the Scottish Government how the international development priorities of an independent Scotland would differ from current United Kingdom aid policy. (S4O-01806)

I call the cabinet secretary.

The Minister for External Affairs and International Development (Humza Yousaf)

I have been promoted. Fantastic!

My officials are developing proposals for international development under independence, to inform the white paper that is to be published later this year. That initial work has included a focus on more and better aid, the championing of climate justice, the concept of doing no harm, the concept of policy coherence for development and careful consideration of unjust debt. We believe that at the centre of all that work must be a focus on gender equality.

In addition, the Scottish Government has said that it will meet the 0.7 per cent target—which successive UK Governments have failed to meet. I welcome the opportunity to hear the thoughts of the development community and others on how an independent Scotland could add most value to global efforts for economic justice.

Drew Smith

Last month, the minister said that a separate Scottish aid programme might go beyond the internationally agreed aid target of 0.7 per cent—perhaps even to 1 per cent, or more. On the basis of our current financial position, what would a 1 per cent commitment amount to in cash terms? Does he consider that, after the costs of setting up a separate Administration, that would be a greater cash amount than Scotland’s current share of UK aid? If so, what other spending would be cut to fund that?

Humza Yousaf

First, Drew Smith will know that there is no estimate of Scottish gross national income, which is what the 0.7 per cent target refers to. I find the lack of ambition from the Opposition parties quite unbelievable. That is my reaction to the member’s comments. [Interruption.]

Order.

Humza Yousaf

The countries against which we should be benchmarking ourselves are those that are aspiring to meet, and are already meeting, 1 per cent targets, including Norway and Luxembourg. If they can do it, why on earth cannot we? I urge the member to have a little bit more ambition. The full detail of our ambition, of course, will be in our white paper later in the year.

Does the minister agree that Scotland already benefits from the expertise that the United Kingdom has built up over many decades in delivering aid to developing countries?

Humza Yousaf

Of course the Department for International Development in the UK Government achieves much success, and of course we would look to continue that relationship where we could, as we maintain relationships with other countries and nations in our development programmes. What I am talking about, and what I have talked about previously, is having in some respects a different set of values. There are some things that the UK Government does in international development that we would not do—aid’s being tied to security, being an example. Aid’s being tied to arms that we are selling to General Suharto or to the Argentinian junta and so on is the kind of value that we would move away from.

There are benefits to the UK’s expertise, but I believe that the benefits of independence and having control of international development here will mean that we can shape a policy that takes on not just economic justice but social justice. That will be much better for our country.


Glasgow 2014 Celebrate Fund



9. Good afternoon, Presiding Officer.

To ask the Scottish Government what it is doing to ensure that equalities groups and smaller community groups will receive support from the Glasgow 2014 celebrate fund. (S4O-01807)

The Minister for External Affairs and International Development (Humza Yousaf)

The celebrate fund is being designed to be as accessible as possible. The lottery distributors that are developing the fund are working to ensure that the criteria reach and capture a diverse and inclusive range of local groups. It is expected that the fund will be launched in April 2013. In developing it, the lottery distributors have considered equality issues and the needs, expertise and experience of people from different backgrounds, in line with their normal approach. The celebrate fund will build on the experiences that the lottery distributors have gained in delivering similar programmes, such as awards for all, which has a good track record of reaching a wide range of diverse groups throughout Scotland.

The Scottish Government’s legacy 2014 website continues to raise awareness of the many opportunities in which individuals and communities throughout Scotland can get involved in the lead-up to the games and beyond.

Hanzala Malik

A number of my constituents have approached me to ask how they can get involved in holding cultural events leading up to and during the 2014 games. I have first-hand experience of explaining how and helping community groups to apply for funding. However, I am concerned that many small groups in Glasgow do not have the capacity and capability to apply for such grants, so doing so would place an additional burden on them. Some of them may be left out—in particular, genuine community groups that wish to participate. What assurances can the minister give me on how such groups can tap into support if they need it? Where will that support come from?

Humza Yousaf

I thank Mr Malik for raising that issue. I know that, since he has been in Parliament, he has rightly raised equality issues on a number of occasions.

We are trying to do things to bridge the gap that might exist. For example, in the volunteers programme, there is £500,000 to help to overcome practical and financial barriers. One of the specific barriers could relate to involvement of people from ethnic minority groups in particular.

I take on board what Hanzala Malik said and I am more than happy to meet him to discuss the matter in more detail. If the issue is capability and capacity for filling out grant applications, there are many good organisations across Scotland, such as the Council of Ethnic Minority Voluntary Sector Organisations and Black and Ethnic Minority Infrastructure in Scotland—with which the member will be familiar—with which we can perhaps work and raise the issue of capacity building.


Infrastructure, Investment and Cities


Welfare Reform (Bedroom Tax)



1. To ask the Scottish Government what impact the forthcoming bedroom tax will have on families in Scotland. (S4O-01809)

The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess)

We estimate that 105,000 Scottish households are set to lose an average of £600 per year. More than three quarters of those households include someone who is disabled, and 15,000 families with children are affected. We have been consistent and clear in our opposition to this United Kingdom Government measure.

George Adam

I thank the minister for her answer. She will be interested to know that the local authority in my area—Renfrewshire—expects almost 2,000 tenants to be affected by the changes, and there are only 114 vacant one-bedroom homes. Does the minister agree that the changes have not been thought out properly and are targeting those who are least able to defend themselves?

Margaret Burgess

Yes—I agree with George Adam. We have made it clear to the UK Government that only 26 per cent of occupied social rented properties in Scotland have one bedroom, and we know that 60 per cent of tenants need one-bedroom properties in order to meet the Department for Work and Pensions underoccupancy rules.

This Government is doing what it can, within its devolved powers, to mitigate the impact of the UK Government’s damaging welfare reforms, and we will continue to consider all reasonable ways to lessen the impact that reforms such as the bedroom tax will have on Scottish households. However, a Scottish Government in an independent Scotland could make decisions about welfare that would support the economy, incentivise work and protect vulnerable households. That is not possible under the current constitutional arrangements.

Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab)

The minister is quite right to highlight the concerns over the impact of the bedroom tax, but would the situation not at least be alleviated if housing associations were able to build more one-bedroom properties, which many cannot do because of the Scottish Government’s decision to cut the housing association grant?

Margaret Burgess

This Government has its affordable housing supply and we have said that we would build 30,000 houses by the end of this session of Parliament. Richard Baker is trying to suggest that we are responsible in some way for the bedroom tax and its impacts. We are not, and that has to be made clear. The suggestion is that the answer to the UK Government’s bedroom tax is for us all of a sudden, out of the blue, to build enough one-bedroom houses by 1 April. As has been said, we cannot do that. The answer is to have no bedroom tax and to have the Scottish Parliament in control of the welfare system in Scotland.

Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)

Does the minister agree that the use of the phrase “bedroom tax” is an inaccurate and misleading description of the underoccupancy charge, and that—given the outburst by her colleagues in Westminster over the so-called pejorative use of language for the simple use of the word “separation”—there appears to be one rule for this Government and another rule for the rest of us?

Alex Johnstone is trying to trivialise a serious matter. Whether it is called “bedroom tax” or “underoccupancy rules”, the effects will be the same, and our vulnerable citizens will suffer from those effects.

Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)

I share the minister’s anger about the unfair and unjustified proposal.

To return to some of the actions that we could take now, is the minister aware of proposals that the City of Edinburgh Council will, in the near future, be considering from my party colleagues about reducing the risk of evictions that could arise from the proposal? Reduction of that risk could be achieved either by allocating additional funds or by redesignating rooms. Will the minister encourage all social housing providers and local authorities to take any creative approach that they can find to reduce the impact of the measure in the short term?

I am talking to housing associations and local authorities throughout Scotland. All of them are taking the matter seriously and are seeking ways to mitigate its impacts and to protect their tenants, as well as their rental income.

Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab)

Does the Scottish Government, in discussions with local authorities and housing associations, take seriously the possibility that there is a loophole in terms of the definition of “bedroom”? Will the minister raise that issue with local authorities and housing associations as a possible way round the problem? Also, when the minister is talking to them, will she urge them not to evict any tenants solely because they have not paid that portion of their rent that has been withdrawn through the bedroom tax?

Margaret Burgess

The Scottish Government will take seriously any proposals—as mentioned by Malcolm Chisholm—that we can legitimately use to mitigate the effects of the bedroom tax and protect our tenants. The issue is actively being looked at.

We want to ensure that anything that we suggest or propose, or that local authorities propose, will not make the position worse for tenants. We will certainly look at every possible option to reduce the effects of the bedroom tax on our tenants.


Capital Projects



2. To ask the Scottish Government what steps it is taking to invest in capital projects. (S4O-01810)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

The Government is determined to invest in Scotland’s infrastructure to stimulate growth in the short term and to lay the foundations for long-term economic success. Our recently updated infrastructure investment plan demonstrates exactly how we will do that, despite the substantial cuts to our capital budget by Westminster.

We are using all the levers at our disposal under current constitutional arrangements to maximise investment and support growth, and between 2012-13 and 2014-15 we will support investment of more than £10 billion. That will be funded by way of the capital budget, revenue-financed investment through the non-profit-distributing pipeline and regulatory asset base rail enhancements, capital receipts, and switching more than £700 million from resource budgets into capital.

The Deputy First Minister mentioned the NPD pipeline, through which only £20 million has been allocated out of a possible £353 million in the past year. It would seem that this shovel-ready Scottish Government is only shovelling fresh air.

Do you have a question, Mr Kelly?

Leaving all the spin and bluster aside, can the minister say what specific steps she is taking to bring forward NPD capital projects as opposed to simple press stunts?

Nicola Sturgeon

That was a demonstration of the better together campaign in action. The member is reduced to parroting Tory lines. It is a bit rich for a member of the party that planned every penny and more of the capital cuts that are currently being imposed by the Tory Government at Westminster to come to Parliament and talk about capital investment. It is rich indeed.

Let me give the member the facts about the NPD projects. [Interruption.]

Mr Baker, please.

Nicola Sturgeon

The member and other members might want to listen to what I have to say. As of now, £1.6 billion of projects have entered procurement or development through the hub. In 2011-12, three projects went into procurement, and they will start construction this year. In 2012-13 so far, 16 projects have entered procurement. Progress is being made.

I will finish where I started by reminding the member that it was essential for the Government to introduce a £2.5 billion NPD pipeline because our capital budget was cut by 26 per cent, every single penny of which cuts were first planned by the Labour Party and Alistair Darling.


Welfare Reform (Bedroom Tax)



3. To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the United Kingdom Government regarding the budgetary impact of the so-called bedroom tax. (S4O-01811)

The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess)

We have written to the United Kingdom Government on a number of occasions about the budgetary impact of the bedroom tax. The bedroom tax does not make economic sense. In the short term, it reduces UK Government expenditure by taking money away from vulnerable people and families. In the long term, it is likely to result in a net economic loss of more than £100 million from the application of the measure in Scotland alone.

There has been concerted opposition to the bedroom tax from stakeholders throughout Scotland. No one disputes the need to reform the welfare system. It is the way in which it is being done that we disagree with, particularly with unfair measures such as the bedroom tax.

Christine Grahame

Does the minister share my concern that the bedroom tax will impact substantially on the funding for refuge services in Scotland that are partly funded by housing benefit, and that, together with the higher cost of providing safe accommodation and the introduction of universal credit, it spells misery for many vulnerable and desperate women and children?

Margaret Burgess

I share the member’s concerns about the impact on refuges. A significant number of refuges are categorised as support-exempt accommodation, and, as such, the bedroom tax will not apply to them. However, we are concerned that some women’s refuges might not be so categorised. We are seeking clarification from the Department for Work and Pensions and, as with all the changes, we will seek to have Scottish interests taken into account. I will certainly update the member with any response.


Kessock Bridge (Resurfacing)



4. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on the completion of the resurfacing of the Kessock bridge. (S4O-01812)

The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown)

The first phase of the essential resurfacing works covering the northbound carriageway and footway started on 11 February and is programmed to take 17 weeks. The second phase of the works will start on 10 February 2014 and is programmed to take 20 weeks. Regular updates on progress will be publicised.

David Stewart

I acknowledge the mitigation measures that the minister has developed, especially the reopening of the Conon Bridge railway station, but the gaping hole in the strategy is the lack of a park and ride at Tore. Such a facility could take hundreds of cars from the Black Isle and beyond off the bridge at peak times. Even at this the 11th hour, will the minister look again at that proposal to prevent traffic mayhem on the Kessock bridge and win the gratitude of legions of frustrated north drivers?

Keith Brown

We are well past the 11th hour. As I described, the work has been on-going for a week, and the traffic chaos to which David Stewart referred has not transpired. The projections that were made and the plans that have been put in place have coped with the additional traffic. There have been delays, but we always said that that would be the case.

The provision of a park-and-ride facility at the Tore site was investigated by Transport Scotland along with council officials, but it was deemed that there was insufficient evidence to show the long-term viability of such a project. That is why the suggestion was not proceeded with.

The Conon Bridge station to which the member referred has been very successful. Indeed, when I opened the station a couple of weeks ago, almost the entire community turned out to see the new facility, which provides young people such as Niamh—who was one of those who attended—with the prospect of being able to travel to Dingwall for the library or to Inverness for shopping.

The station is a great addition to the rail network for the people in that community. My hope is that the shift from road to rail while the Kessock bridge works are on-going will, for many people, become a permanent move, so that we can thereby increase the use of the railways and reduce congestion in future.

The plans have been put in place and are working well.


Scottish Water (Procurement)



5. To ask the Scottish Government what plans it has to review Scottish Water’s procurement processes. (S4O-01813)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

The Scottish Government is fully advised of Scottish Water’s procurement approach. Scottish Water is currently setting out a new long-term procurement model for the 2015 to 2021 regulatory period that is fully consistent with the statutory obligations that apply to it. The new model is intended to reflect Scottish Government procurement policy, including the suitable inclusion of regional-based contractors.

Willie Coffey

As the cabinet secretary may be aware, smaller companies are sometimes at a disadvantage in engaging with the procurement process, which often favours larger companies due to economies of scale. First, can she clarify whether the public utilities will be included within the public procurement reform bill? Secondly, what advice can the Scottish Government offer to those small companies that do not make it on to Scottish Water’s various frameworks on how they can continue to develop their businesses?

Nicola Sturgeon

On the first point, Willie Coffey will be aware that the Government has committed to introducing a procurement reform bill before the summer recess. The analysis of the consultation, along with other views such as those that have been raised today, will help to inform the development of the bill as it makes its way through the legislative process. We expect the application of the bill to be subject to further detailed discussion as the proposed legislation develops, and I am happy to keep Willie Coffey and other members fully advised of progress.

On assistance to small companies, a key benefit of Scottish Water’s approach to procurement over the next regulatory period is that it will help to secure a strong Scottish supply chain involvement. I would be very happy to meet Willie Coffey directly to discuss such matters or to arrange for Scottish Water officials to meet any constituents of his to discuss Scottish Water’s procurement approach and to advise on how best to engage with it. I would certainly be happy to talk to Willie Coffey about more general advice for small companies that are looking to be competitive in securing public contracts.


Regeneration (Glasgow Kelvin)



6. To ask the Scottish Government what plans it has for regeneration in the Glasgow Kelvin constituency. (S4O-01814)

The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess)

The Scottish Government is committed to the regeneration of all of Scotland’s most disadvantaged areas and to the strengthening of local communities. “Achieving a Sustainable Future: Regeneration Strategy” outlines our vision for a Scotland where such communities are supported and where all places are sustainable and promote wellbeing.

The Scottish Government has a key role in setting the vision and strategic direction for regeneration across Scotland and in providing an overarching framework for delivery. The community planning partnership and Glasgow City Council have responsibility for delivering local economic development and local regeneration, including in Glasgow Kelvin. The Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities recently issued joint guidance to community planning partnerships on the scope and content of their strategic outcome agreements. The guidance highlights the need for a clear and evidence-based understanding of place to drive improvement, to identify priorities for interventions and to promote better partnership working and more effective use of resources.

Sandra White

I thank the minister for that detailed reply. In fact, I attended a meeting on that issue on Monday with the Local Government and Regeneration Committee.

Is the minister aware of reports that George Square will undergo no redevelopment before the 2014 Commonwealth games, despite the redevelopment being part of a tax increment financing agreement? Does the minister have more information on that?

The minister might also be aware that parts of Byres Road and Sauchiehall Street in my constituency are suffering badly due in part to Glasgow City Council’s policy of lumping them together with more prosperous areas of the same streets. Will the minister meet me to discuss those issues and perhaps consider an action plan for those areas?

Margaret Burgess

The Scottish Government is engaging with Glasgow City Council on the Buchanan quarter tax increment financing scheme, which includes improvements to George Square. We expect that a package of improvements to the square will be delivered in time for the Commonwealth games in 2014. Overall, we hope that the TIF investment, which is worth £80 million, will regenerate Glasgow city centre by levering in private sector investment of £310 million and generating about 1,500 jobs.

The member is right that her constituency contains some more disadvantaged areas but, as I have said previously, it is for Glasgow City Council and its community planning partnership to identify priorities through discussion with local communities and groups. However, I am happy to meet the member to discuss how her constituency can benefit from various initiatives and funding supports that cover the city and adjoining areas.


Business Rates Incentivisation Scheme

Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab)



7. To ask the Scottish Government whether the Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities has had discussions with the Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth on the impact on cities of the business rates incentivisation scheme and whether she has communicated the outcome to the city councils. (S4O-01815)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

I have regular discussions with the finance secretary about a wide range of policies that are intended to grow Scotland’s economy and support our cities, including discussions about the business rates incentivisation scheme. The city councils have been informed of the scheme as part of the local government finance settlement communications and they are clearly well placed to benefit from the scheme.

Lewis Macdonald

Can the cabinet secretary confirm that, when she met the chief executive and the leader of Aberdeen City Council late last year, she discussed the scheme with them? At that time, it was estimated that the scheme was potentially worth more than £7 million to Aberdeen City Council in the current financial year. If that is the case, and if the £7 million is no longer available to the council, will she explain to the citizens of Aberdeen why that is and what has changed since November?

Nicola Sturgeon

On the first part of Lewis Macdonald’s question, we discussed the scheme when I met the chief executive and leader of Aberdeen City Council at the end of last year. From memory, one issue on which they sought clarification was about whether councils are able to keep 50 per cent of any extra business rates income over the jointly agreed targets, which is the case.

On the 2012-13 targets, Lewis Macdonald will be aware that, under the rules—which, incidentally, have been agreed by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities—the targets can be reviewed by either the Government or local government in the light of a significant event that impacts on the amount of business rates income that is collected in a year. An apparent delay in settling business rates appeal cases in 2012-13, which is caused by the need to await the outcome of a particular appeal case, has resulted in an expectation that more income will be collected this year than had been predicted.

The Scottish Government has notified Aberdeen City Council that the 2012-13 targets are not fixed and that we are currently examining the latest business rates returns with a view to revising the targets, which are currently the subject of discussion and agreement with COSLA. Of course, other things being equal, any adjustment to increase the targets for 2012-13 as a result of the slippage of the settlement of appeals cases will mean a reduction in the targets that would otherwise have been set for 2013-14, when the appeals cases are likely to be settled.


Demographic Change (Impact on Housing)



8. To ask the Scottish Government what preparations it has made for the impact on housing of demographic change, in light of the Finance Committee’s recent report, “Demographic change and an ageing population”. (S4O-01816)

I would appreciate a brief response, minister.

The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess)

Okay. We published “Age, Home and Community: A Strategy for Housing for Scotland’s Older People: 2012-2021”, our 10-year strategy for housing for Scotland’s older people, jointly with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities in December 2011. We are working to deliver the strategy with our partners across the housing sector and beyond.

We can have a brief supplementary from Siobhan McMahon.

The minister will be aware that the number of pensioner households requiring adaptation is projected to increase from 66,300 in 2008 to 106,000 in 2033. Concerns have been raised about the current funding system for adaptations.

I am sorry, but we need a question. We are tight for time in the following debate.

The adaptations working group has stated that increased funds are likely to be necessary and has recommended the creation of

“a single local funding pot”.

Does the minister plan to act on that recommendation?

We are grateful for the recommendations of the adaptations working group and we will shortly respond formally to its report. We will work to take forward the group’s recommendations on the future organisation and funding of adaptations.