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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, June 28, 2012


Contents


Scottish Executive Question Time


Culture and External Affairs


Creative Scotland (Aberdeen)



1. To ask the Scottish Government when it last met Creative Scotland to discuss its work in Aberdeen. (S4O-01189)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

The Scottish Government regularly meets Creative Scotland, the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and Vocal Scotland to discuss issues and share information in relation to culture and cultural services in a local authority context. The Scottish Government has not met Creative Scotland to discuss its work in Aberdeen specifically.

Kevin Stewart

Has Creative Scotland been in discussion with partners, including Aberdeen City Council, about the proposed city garden project? Has the Labour-led Administration indicated to Creative Scotland what its funding plans are to refurbish Aberdeen art gallery if it rejects the tax incremental financing bid?

Fiona Hyslop

Creative Scotland is represented on the Aberdeen city garden project group in forming and influencing the strategic content of the proposed granite web. Its interests are in delivering quality arts facilities for the people of Scotland, and it is keen to ensure that the proposed development helps to strengthen Aberdeen’s cultural infrastructure and adds value to the work of existing organisations in the area.

Creative Scotland recently spoke to the leader of Aberdeen City Council about the city garden project. The council considers that it offers the potential to be a key platform for the city’s bid to win city of culture status. I do not know whether the council indicated to Creative Scotland what the funding plans are to refurbish the art gallery should it reject TIF, but I will endeavour to find that out for Kevin Stewart.

Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab)

I confirm what the minister has said: the Aberdeen art gallery and the city garden project were among the issues discussed at that meeting. All the members in the chamber understand that the garden project is one that has deeply divided opinion in the city, but what I think will unite opinion—I welcome the minister’s comments on this—is the city’s bid to be the United Kingdom’s city of culture in 2017. Does the minister encourage people to support that bid? Does she support the bid?

Fiona Hyslop

I note Lewis Macdonald’s comments. I refer to the fact that there was a referendum and that a large number of Aberdeen’s population voted in favour of the project, and it is up to the democratic process within Aberdeen to take its course. There is great potential for cultural activity in Aberdeen to be enhanced by a variety of projects.

On the city of culture bid, I warmly welcome and support Aberdeen’s proposals. I add that I am aware that the city of Dundee is also interested in bidding. If the member can bear with me, I think that we can provide opportunities to support culture more generally as the proposals develop. It is fantastic that we have Scottish cities bidding to be city of culture.

Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)

On what is perhaps a slightly less controversial topic, will the minister outline what additional support and promotion the Scottish Government, along with Creative Scotland, might provide to help festivals such as the Aberdeen international youth festival and others across the north-east such as the Portsoy, Sound and Stonehaven folk festivals, as part of the winning years and homecoming initiatives, given the fact that many festivals are facing cuts to grants and significant challenges in securing sponsorship?

Fiona Hyslop

I am very pleased that, in what is a difficult financial climate, we have managed to protect front-line investment for culture and creative services and, indeed, Creative Scotland. One reason why Creative Scotland has developed a formal place partnership with Aberdeen city in particular is to look at how we can strategically support all the wonderful, different festivals and cultural offerings that are available in Aberdeen. As the member knows, I am looking forward to attending the Aberdeen international youth festival to help in the celebrations and to showcase the best of not only Scottish but international youth talent to Scotland and the wider world.


Indonesian Government (Discussions)



2. To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the Indonesian Government. (S4O-01190)

The Scottish Government has not had any discussions with the Indonesian Government.

Jamie Hepburn

The cabinet secretary will recall the tragedy in East Timor in which, under Indonesian occupation, between 100,000 and 200,000 people were killed. Less well known is the situation in West Papua, which has been occupied by Indonesia since 1962. There has been on-going repression there: people can be arrested for raising the West Papuan flag and it is reported that 400,000 West Papuans have been killed in the intervening years. There is currently a crackdown on those who are asserting West Papua’s right to sovereignty. Can the cabinet secretary assure me that the Scottish Government condemns human rights abuses wherever they occur?

Fiona Hyslop

I and the Scottish Government condemn human rights abuses wherever they occur. As a responsible nation within the global community, Scotland has a strong and enduring commitment to securing fundamental human rights and we expect all states to comply with international and human rights law.

Through organisations such as the United Nations, the international community has a key role in establishing the framework to ensure that the fundamental rights of all, particularly the most vulnerable and powerless, are fully protected and respected. I thank the member for bringing the issue of West Papua to the attention of the Scottish Parliament.


Homecoming 2014



3. To ask the Scottish Government how it will showcase Scots culture for the year of homecoming 2014 and beyond. (S4O-01191)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

We are keen to take every opportunity to showcase Scots culture during homecoming 2014 and beyond. An inspirational events programme for the year will be developed, set around the five themes of ancestry, food and drink, active, creative and natural Scotland. We recently announced £3 million to support that programme, and a call for funding applications to events and organisations will be made later in the summer when full criteria and guidelines will also be provided.

Adam Ingram

With her Ayrshire connections, the cabinet secretary will be well aware of the huge contribution that Burns country could make to the year of homecoming. What discussions has the Scottish Government had with the National Trust for Scotland and others to connect up existing offerings, such as music and literary festivals, perhaps using the Robert Burns birthplace museum as a hub for Scots cultural initiatives?

Fiona Hyslop

The National Trust for Scotland is an enthusiastic supporter of the plans for the focus years and homecoming 2014. It is represented on the strategic group along with other key partners. As well as leading the delivery of homecoming 2014, the group will look at opportunities to work with others.

The member made points about all the fantastic festivals that already take place in Ayrshire that could be enhanced during the year of homecoming 2014, and that is a great idea. I know that he has been encouraging Creative Scotland to make contact with South Ayrshire Council to see what opportunities exist.

Burns country was such an important part of the 2009 homecoming, and it presents a great opportunity for the future. The suggestion of the Robert Burns birthplace museum being used as a hub for Scots is a good one, but the member will appreciate that it is for Creative Scotland, South Ayrshire Council and the National Trust for Scotland to implement such ideas.

How will the Scottish Government showcase the Gaelic language and culture for the year of homecoming 2014 and beyond?

Fiona Hyslop

I refer the member to the points in my earlier answer about this summer’s opportunities for bids. There will be a great opportunity to showcase Gaelic culture during the year of homecoming 2014, building on the momentum of some of the activity that we are already seeing. For example, the Tiree music festival, Fèis Canna, the Royal National Mod and the Blas festival are all joining the celebration of the year of creative Scotland. We can build on that going forward to 2014.

Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con)

For the many people who were left with unpaid bills from homecoming 2009, there is still a bad taste in the mouth. Has the Scottish Government any plans to mitigate the unfortunate legacy from that previous failure? Does it have any plans to reassure people who are going to be involved in the homecoming 2014 that those who provide goods and services will be paid?

Fiona Hyslop

The member will be aware that homecoming 2009 was extremely successful. It brought a great deal of additional income to Scottish businesses, and more than 300 events were highly successful.

The member will be aware that the Parliament has carried out an investigation into the one event that had some difficulties. Recommendations were made as part of that, and those taking forward any future gathering in 2014 will have learned lessons, not least to be careful who they work with when it comes to private companies. Anyone involved in clan 2014 will take on board the weaknesses of the gathering of 2009.

Lessons learned at the time of the inquiry will be taken forward, but we cannot forget the success of all the festivals and events in homecoming 2009. It is important that members throughout the chamber get behind all the events in homecoming 2014 to make them a success.


Lower Saxony (Discussions)



4. To ask the Scottish Government what issues were discussed with the Prime Minister of Lower Saxony during his visit to the Parliament. (S4O-01192)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

At their meeting on 7 June, the First Minister and David McAllister, Minister-President of Lower Saxony, discussed strengthening co-operation between Scotland and Lower Saxony in the fields of renewable energy and energy technology, including how to turn low-carbon opportunities into reality. They also discussed wider issues in Europe. The First Minister accepted an invitation to visit Lower Saxony later in the year and received an invitation for the Scottish Government to participate in a celebration of Scottish culture in Lower Saxony next year.

Question 5 from James Dornan.

James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) rose—

Excuse me, Mr Dornan. Colin Keir has a supplementary.

Thank you, Presiding Officer.

What recent discussions have taken place with other German leaders, with a view to promoting Scotland’s economic interests in Germany?

Fiona Hyslop

I think I am with you, Presiding Officer.

Fergus Ewing is in Germany this week, giving a keynote address at windforce 2012 in Bremen, which is a major offshore wind energy trade fair and conference. Mr Ewing will meet a number of existing and potential inward investors, including AREVA Wind, Alstom, ForWind, PNE WIND and Mahle. There are 14 Scottish companies attending windforce 2012, of which 10 will be on the Scottish Development International stand at the exhibition.

Fergus Ewing will also meet politicians, including the Federal Minister for the Environment, the Lower Saxony Minister for Environment, Energy and Climate Protection, and the Baden-Württemberg Minister of the Environment, Climate Protection and the Energy Sector. Mr Ewing has invited the Lower Saxony environment minister to come to Scotland to build on the co-operation between Scotland and Lower Saxony.

Now we come to question 5 from James Dornan.


South Sudan (Scottish Organisations)



5. I hope that you think this is worth waiting for, Presiding Officer.

To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with Scottish organisations carrying out development work in South Sudan. (S4O-01193)

The Scottish Government has regular discussions with the Network of International Development Organisations in Scotland, whose members are involved in development work throughout Africa, including South Sudan.

James Dornan

I have recently visited South Sudan and Uganda with Glasgow the Caring City, and I saw first-hand some of the inspirational work that it and other Scottish charities are doing to make life better for the children of South Sudan, many of whom have been orphaned because of the atrocities committed by Joseph Kony and the Lord’s Resistance Army. Will the cabinet secretary join me in condemning those atrocities, praising the work of Scottish aid charities in South Sudan, who are making a significant difference to the lives of those in need, and congratulating South Sudan on the first anniversary of its independence on 9 July?

Fiona Hyslop

I join the member in congratulating South Sudan on the first anniversary of its independence on 9 July. I am aware of the good work undertaken by Glasgow the Caring City, which the Scottish Government has previously funded to undertake humanitarian work in response to events in Gaza and Haiti. I welcome its valuable contribution to the relief effort in South Sudan.

The Scottish Government condemns in the strongest possible terms the atrocities carried out by Joseph Kony and the Lord’s Resistance Army. As I said in response to an earlier question, we promote a positive vision of human rights around the world. Our international development policy articulates the vision of Scotland’s place and its commitment to play a role in responding to challenges faced by our world today.

Question 6, from Stewart Maxwell, was not lodged, although the member has provided an explanation.


European Commission (Discussions)



7. To ask the Scottish Executive what recent discussions it has had with the European Commission. (S4O-01195)

The Government has regular contact with the Commission and other member states concerning a range of issues in order to govern in the best interests of the people of Scotland.

Helen Eadie

I note that the cabinet secretary did not mention any conversations, discussions or correspondence about the key issue of the legal competence of a separate Scotland’s accession to the European Union and the euro currency. I know that the Scottish Government asserts that that is somehow a done deal but, without the paperwork, canny Scots have questions that remain. When will the cabinet secretary publish a view from the Commission that clarifies whether a separate Scotland can or cannot join the EU without joining the euro? If not, why not?

Fiona Hyslop

When Helen Eadie asked this question on 8 September 2011, I answered:

“The Government has regular contact with Commission officials and other member states, which concern a range of issues. It is not customary to divulge the content of those or any other official discussions.”—[Official Report, 8 September 2011; c 1548.]

I refer Helen Eadie to the Commission. It is for the Commission to answer those points. The one statement that we have had from the Commission has been from the Commissioner for Inter-Institutional Relations and Administration—interestingly, not the commissioner with responsibility for enlargement. That statement said:

“At the present time, the Commission is not able to express any view on the specific issue ... given that the terms and result of any future referendum are unknown, as is the nature of the possible future relationships between the parties concerned and between those parties and European Union partners.”

I remind Helen Eadie that, following independence, the rest of the United Kingdom would be in a position similar to Scotland’s, and, as continuing members of the European Union, both of us would have interests in engaging constructively with the Commission at that time.

Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)

In light of the meeting of the European Council that is getting under way in Brussels right now, does the cabinet secretary agree that the United Kingdom Prime Minister should use it as an opportunity to commit his Government to a common EU growth strategy based on increasing capital investment and strengthening job creation across the UK, exactly in accordance with the policies that the Scottish Government has repeatedly urged him to initiate?

Fiona Hyslop

Yesterday, the Scottish Government announced £105 million of capital investment to stimulate the Scottish economy. I am sure that that will be welcomed across the chamber. We have repeatedly emphasised to the UK chancellor the importance of increased investment in infrastructure and have highlighted the need for shovel-ready projects to protect jobs and strengthen recovery. This Government is delivering. It would be helpful if the UK Government could do likewise.

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth and I have repeatedly made those points to the UK Government in the context of the European Council and in other discussions. It is important for the sake of jobs in Europe and Scotland that we do everything that we can to generate economic growth. This Government has delivered, and I am sure that members will recognise that, with the £105 million that we announced yesterday, we are stimulating the Scottish economy.


Local Broadcasting and Programming (Scottish Borders)



8. To ask the Scottish Executive what steps it is taking to promote local broadcasting and programming in the Scottish Borders. (S4O-01196)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

The quality of broadcasting in the Scottish Borders and the south of Scotland generally is a key concern for the Government. That is why, in meetings and correspondence with STV, ITV, the Office of Communications and the Westminster Government, we have stressed the importance of viewers having access to Scottish programming, particularly on news and current affairs at this time of national debate.

It is also why we are investing £239,000 into a pilot project for a local television service that will be delivered in Annan via broadband. That is a co-investment with Dumfries and Galloway Council. The pilot commences in the second half of this year and will last until early 2013. If the pilot is successful, it will be repeated as part of the next-generation broadband scheme in the area, starting in mid-2013, under the Scottish Government’s procurement plan.

John Lamont

In light of Ofcom’s recent report, “Licensing of Channel 3 and Channel 5”, does the cabinet secretary share my belief that local broadcasting and planning would be better served by having a dedicated, regional service for viewers in the south of Scotland, supplemented with coverage of national Scottish issues, rather than a Scotland-wide service, such as the one that is proposed by STV?

Fiona Hyslop

Indeed I do. I think that the member is right to draw our attention to the Ofcom report. The Ofcom advice on channel 3 relicensing said:

“Changes to the Channel 3 service broadcast in the south of Scotland may also be appropriate to ensure viewers receive coverage of both regional and National matters.”

This is an issue that unites members across the chamber who want to achieve a better quality of news and service for the Borders. The licence for the channel 3 service is one of the opportunities in that regard. It would be appropriate for me to encourage the member to encourage the United Kingdom Government to make a decision about that sooner rather than later. If it heeds the advice in Ofcom’s report, we might make progress on an issue that unites the chamber.


Traditional Arts Working Group



9. To ask the Scottish Government what progress has been made in implementing the proposals of the traditional arts working group. (S4O-01197)

The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)

Creative Scotland, which is our national body for the arts, culture and creative industries, continues to take forward the traditional arts working group’s recommendations.

The introduction of dedicated investment programmes to support the traditional arts in commissions, mentoring and tutoring and professional development, and increased investment from a range of Creative Scotland’s funding streams, have resulted in progress, with the creation and implementation of a range of successful projects and schemes, including “The Boy and the Bunnet”, which uses traditional Scottish instruments and musical styles and which will be performed at this year’s Edinburgh festival fringe. A touring performance on the life of the Highland preacher the Rev Duncan Campbell, the Scottish Youth Theatre’s “Family Storytime” for young children and families, and two commemorative performances at the National Mod in celebration of its 120th anniversary are currently in development.

Will the minister ensure that Creative Scotland maintains the promotion of Scottish traditional music in its rubric of the forthcoming development plan?

Yes. I will ensure that Creative Scotland maintains the promotion of all traditional arts, including traditional music.


Infrastructure and Capital Investment


Electric Cars



1. To ask the Scottish Executive what progress it is making on rolling out an infrastructure for electric cars. (S4O-01199)

The Minister for Housing and Transport (Keith Brown)

Building on the successful installation of more than 300 electric vehicle charging posts in phase 1, good progress continues with phase 2 in concentrating on expanding that network further. We are in discussions with a number of stakeholders to widen the current infrastructure to include trunk roads, workplaces, ferry terminals, homes and transportation for the Commonwealth games in Glasgow. Work is also on-going on the creation of a Scottish plugged-in places and electric vehicles website, which will provide information on how to purchase electric vehicles, their associated benefits, as well as a map that details charge point locations.

Claudia Beamish

I thank the minister for that helpful answer.

An electric vehicle charge point has just been installed at St Bride’s community centre in South Lanarkshire in my region, but it is rarely used by the public, which is disappointing. The minister has highlighted the advertising of possibilities. In addition to the infrastructure work, what is the Scottish Government doing to encourage uptake of electric vehicles and to give consumers confidence to overcome range anxiety, in particular?

Keith Brown

That is an important issue. We should understand that it will be very difficult to encourage people to buy electric vehicles until the infrastructure for them is in place. I take on board Claudia Beamish’s point about ensuring that people are aware of where charge points are. They are all in the national charge-point registry and, as I mentioned, will be on the website that we are developing.

It is worth saying that the new charge points that we will create will include a number of fast-charge points, which are important for range—Claudia Beamish mentioned range. They will be in more rural areas, and we will ensure that we can join up between the cities as well. With those things being taken forward, we will have the infrastructure in place that will, I hope, encourage more people to use electric vehicles.

Question 2, in the name of Jenny Marra, has not been lodged, but she has provided an explanation for that.


Railway Station Improvement Programme



3. To ask the Scottish Government what the uptake and interest has been in the railway station improvement programme announced earlier this year. (S4O-01201)

The Minister for Housing and Transport (Keith Brown)

The £30 million stations investment fund, which was announced in April this year, will aim to lever in additional funding to deliver improved and new stations from 2014. Transport Scotland has received 12 inquiries since the announcement, but we are aware of further station aspirations, including those that are highlighted in responses to the “Rail 2014” consultation.

Chic Brodie

The minister is to be congratulated on the programme, which will present an even better image to tourists who travel by train across Scotland.

A plan to develop the railway station at Prestwick airport has been under way for some time, and I understand that the proposal is now decision-ready. That railway station is particularly important because it is the only one that adjoins a key airport. Will the minister encourage his officials to engage quickly with Network Rail and Prestwick airport to give the go-ahead to that development?

Keith Brown

Stations that are owned by third parties such as Prestwick airport will be eligible and will be considered for funding through the Scottish stations investment fund. The eligibility criteria and the application process will be discussed with stakeholders over the coming months. I certainly encourage Prestwick airport to get involved in that process. As I said, the station development programme will start in 2014.

Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab)

The minister said that the criteria will be discussed over coming months. Can he say what the criteria are likely to be, so that stations and communities can prepare bids for the fund? As the minister will know, there will be a lot more than 12, as I can think of two in my own constituency that would be interested.

Keith Brown

I think that every member in the chamber could think of two stations in their constituency. It is important to repeat that we will seek to have others contribute to the capital costs, whether they are regional transport partnerships, local councils or private developers. Some of the bids that have already been put to us will also be considered in that respect. We want the capital costs of new stations to be covered in that way as much as possible. The franchise holder will, of course, take on the on-going subsidy costs to provide the service. The more we can cover the costs, the more stations we can take forward. The criteria are likely to include how such contributions will be made. They are also likely to cover the necessary Scottish transport appraisal guidance arrangements, because we must ensure that the train option is the right option for any proposed stations. All those aspects will be considered for the criteria that will be formed by officials and brought forward in the coming months.


Broadband Roll-out



4. To ask the Scottish Government what criteria will be considered in deciding where to target the next roll-out of broadband. (S4O-01202)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

“Scotland’s Digital Future—Infrastructure Action Plan” was published on 31 January 2012 and makes it clear that public sector intervention in next generation broadband infrastructure will be targeted solely in the areas where the market is not delivering or will not deliver next generation broadband. Those are defined by the European Union as “white areas”.

Linda Fabiani

The market is certainly not delivering in East Kilbride in my constituency, which is the largest town in Scotland and has a very high number of extremely successful businesses and makes a great contribution to Scotland’s economy. Can the cabinet secretary please take steps to ensure that that thriving hub of business is given decent broadband coverage so that we can all move forward?

Alex Neil

I appreciate that point. East Kilbride is a large town and one would expect the private sector to provide superfast broadband in a town that size. I am happy to take up that issue with providers and to meet Linda Fabiani to discuss how we can develop the situation and ensure that East Kilbride has access to superfast broadband.

Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab)

Can the cabinet secretary take action to ensure that broadband infrastructure is improved in places like Moodiesburn and Mollinsburn in my constituency, where internet speeds are prohibitively slow and cause problems for households and local businesses?

Alex Neil

I realise that many people are in a similar position in that regard, including in the two communities to which Elaine Smith referred. We will announce later this year the detail of the roll-out of our superfast broadband investment. East Kilbride is under South Lanarkshire Council and the two communities to which Elaine Smith referred are under North Lanarkshire Council. It would be helpful if both those councils could produce their proposals for the roll-out of superfast broadband in their areas.


Town Centre and High Street Investment



5. To ask the Scottish Executive what investment it plans for town centres and high streets. (S4O-01203)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

The Scottish Government recognises that vibrant town centres and high streets are vital to the wellbeing of communities and the local economy.

We are committed to supporting town centres and high streets, and I will announce details of our town centre review in the summer, which will bring together representatives from the public, private and third sectors who have an appetite to get involved.

However, local authorities are responsible for local economic development and therefore for ensuring the viability of the towns within their areas, taking account of local circumstances and the aspirations of their communities.

Patricia Ferguson

As the minister will know, I was a supporter of the previous town centre regeneration fund and saw the good work that was achieved using that money. It would be helpful if the minister could consider reinstating such a fund or introducing a similar mechanism, particularly to help to tackle the problems of town centres like Springburn, where the facilities are in private ownership and there are consequently fewer levers to promote the change and improvement that is badly needed.

Alex Neil

I would be delighted to reinstate such a fund if I had the money to do so. Of course I do not have the money to do so, because the capital budget of the Scottish Government was cut by 40 per cent by Alasdair Darling and is still being cut by 30 per cent by the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats. If they reverse their cuts, I will set up a new town centre regeneration fund.


Broadband (Central Scotland)



6. To ask the Scottish Government what steps it is taking to improve the broadband infrastructure in Central Scotland. (S4O-01204)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

Members may have heard some of this already.

The infrastructure action plan that I referred to in my answer to the previous question on broadband sets out the Scottish Government commitment to—and the steps that it will take to deliver—a step change in broadband speeds by 2015. That will pave the way for the delivery of world-class and future-proofed infrastructure across the whole of Scotland by 2020.

Through our step change 2015 programme, we will invest in infrastructure that will have the capacity to deliver broadband at a speed of 40 to 80 megabits per second to 85 to 90 per cent of premises by 2015. In John Wilson’s constituency, that commitment will be delivered through our rest of Scotland broadband project, which aims to enter procurement in September.

As we progress through delivery of that programme, we will work collaboratively with the local authorities in central Scotland to ensure that we take account of local plans and priorities in the region.

John Wilson

I thank the cabinet secretary for his extensive response. To follow up on the points that were raised by my colleagues earlier, can I get assurances from the cabinet secretary that issues relating to broadband slow-spots and the current inequality in accessing broadband that are experienced by many communities throughout central Scotland will be tackled?

Alex Neil

Slow-spots and not-spots are our top priorities in rolling out broadband. However, as we have said, we will follow the priorities that are decided locally. That is why I am anxious that North Lanarkshire Council, South Lanarkshire Council and Falkirk Council—which cover the area that is represented by the regional member—all submit their plans and proposals. As I have made clear twice in two documents in the past three or four months, areas that submit their plans will be given priority. We are not going to hold up the rest of Scotland because some people are falling behind in submitting their plans for broadband.


Broadband (Angus and Aberdeenshire)



7. To ask the Scottish Government what action is being taken to improve broadband speeds in Angus and Aberdeenshire. (S4O-01205)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

I am beginning to feel like a broadband.

In my response to the previous question, I referred to the step change 2015 programme, in which the Scottish Government has committed to investing in infrastructure that will have the capacity to deliver broadband at a speed of 40 to 80 megabits per second to 85 to 90 per cent of premises by 2015.

In total, the Scottish Government’s central funding pot for broadband delivery across Scotland is now £244.5 million. In addition, about £40 million to date has been secured in local authority contributions—that includes the intention of Aberdeenshire Council to provide up to £18 million. That significant contribution to the procurement exercise that is due to begin in September will enable even more businesses and people in Aberdeenshire to benefit from next-generation broadband.

Over the summer, we will continue our dialogue with the local authorities in Angus and Aberdeenshire to ensure that we take account of local plans and priorities in the respective regions.

Nigel Don

I guess that we are getting a taste of what topical questions might be like next term.

I have heard everything that the cabinet secretary has said—including his responses to the previous questions, of course. I make the point that I—and many other members—represent the communities who will be in the last 10 per cent or so. To them, what the other 85 to 90 per cent of the population are getting is of little interest. Those small communities that are a significant distance away from existing telephone exchanges will be the last to be reached but, if I can make the point gently, they are the people—[Interruption.]

I am not sure what happened to Mr Don’s microphone there. The light was certainly on, but it was difficult to hear him. I am sure that you can be brief, cabinet secretary.

Alex Neil

I hope that Mr Don’s seat is not a not-spot for broadband, as it seems to be for the microphone. He should not assume that because an area is quite far away from the cabinet or exchange, it will automatically be in the last 10 or 15 per cent of areas to be dealt with. I have made it absolutely clear that I am determined that remote rural areas and island communities will not be at the tail end of the process. The whole point of the money that we are investing is to get, in the shortest time, to the areas where need is greatest. During the summer, I will announce various other initiatives that will be designed specifically to deal with the kind of situation in which Mr Don’s constituents find themselves.

Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab)

How will the Scottish Government achieve its ambition that the rate of broadband take-up in Scotland be at or above the United Kingdom average by next year, when the current figure is significantly below that and the contracts for the work will not even be awarded until the first half of next year? Is it not time for superfast action from the broadband secretary and are we not lacking that at the moment?

Alex Neil

That is superfast nonsense. Mr Baker, as is his wont, picks out one statistic from a battery of statistics. For example, he does not take into account take-up of mobile broadband, particularly among young people, which in some areas is of the order of 85 to 90 per cent. Rather than give us the doom and gloom, why does he not join us and recognise, as the rest of the UK now does, that Scotland has caught up and will move ahead of everybody else to ensure that our country has superfast broadband as and when it requires it.


Scottish Water (Meetings)



8. To ask the Scottish Executive when it last met the chief executive of Scottish Water and what issues were discussed. (S4O-01206)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

I thank Drew Smith for not asking about broadband.

I met the chair and chief executive of Scottish Water on Monday 25 June 2012, when I opened the new Dunoon waste water improvement scheme, which is a most impressive facility that is delivering significant benefits to the community of Dunoon.

Drew Smith

Earlier this year, the First Minister mooted the idea that Scottish Water should be able to raise and borrow money from the markets or, in other words, that Scottish Water should be transformed into a so-called public interest company. Does the cabinet secretary agree with the trade unions and others that that model is simply privatisation by another name? Does he agree that the Scottish people are entitled to know whether the Scottish Government has any plans to sell water and waste water services to contractors and to transfer control of water from the public sector to the markets?

Alex Neil

I draw Drew Smith’s attention to the Water Resources (Scotland) Bill, which was published today along with a policy memorandum and explanatory notes in which we make it abundantly clear that Scottish Water will remain in public ownership while we remain in government. Unlike the Labour Party, we will not follow the Tory agenda of privatisation.


Public Sector Contracts (Access)



9. To ask the Scottish Government what it is doing to improve access to public sector contracts for small companies. (S4O-01207)

The Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure and Capital Investment (Alex Neil)

As part of our drive to achieve sustainable economic growth, the Government has greatly enhanced ease of access to public sector contracts, especially through the introduction of the public contracts Scotland service, which provides suppliers with free access to thousands of Scottish contracting opportunities. Since the website’s launch in 2008, more than 15,000 public contract opportunities have been advertised on it. The service currently has more than 60,000 supplier registrations, in excess of 80 per cent of which are small and medium-sized enterprises. The website consistently achieves more than 1 million page views every month.

Graeme Dey

Although I accept entirely that there are legislative impediments to local companies of all sizes being favoured in procurement processes, has the cabinet secretary considered whether it might be possible for carbon footprint to become a consideration in awarding of contracts?

Alex Neil

I raised that point yesterday in Brussels with Commissioner Barnier, who is in overall charge of public procurement reform in Brussels. The European Commission and the Scottish Government will take forward work on that.

As for some of the nonsense that has been put around about the ability of small to medium-sized enterprises in Scotland to win work, I can tell Graeme Dey that, according to figures for the Forth replacement crossing, 87 per cent of the supply orders and 60 per cent of the subcontract work have gone to Scottish companies. Those figures make an absolute nonsense of the misinformation and disinformation that the Labour Party is putting about.


Housing Supply (Social Rented Sector)



10. To ask the Scottish Government what is being done to increase the supply of social rented housing. (S4O-01208)

The Minister for Housing and Transport (Keith Brown)

The Scottish Government has been absolutely clear in its aim to deliver during this session of Parliament at least 30,000 affordable homes, at least two thirds of which will be for social rent. In the first full year of this Parliament, almost 6,900 affordable homes were completed, 5,662 of which were for social rent.

John Finnie

Given that the Highlands is leading the way with health and social care integration, and in the light of the Christie commission’s proposals promoting collaborative working across public bodies, will the Scottish Government encourage public authorities to convert, wherever practicable, vacated office space into dwelling houses?

Keith Brown

John Finnie might be aware that a consultation on proposals for integration of adult health and social care is under way and that the deadline for responses is 11 September. I encourage all members, including Mr Finnie, to respond to it.

As for conversion of vacant office space for housing, details of public sector surplus land and properties are circulated internally to check for potential interest. That system allows the Scottish Government to consider with local partners whether any of the surplus properties that are available might, where practicable, be suitable for housing use.