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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, November 4, 2010


Contents


Scottish Executive Question Time


Health and Wellbeing

Question 1 was not lodged.


Podiatry Services



2. To ask the Scottish Executive what its position is on access to podiatry services being based on clinical need rather than ability to pay. (S3O-11852)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon)

The planning and provision of national health service podiatry services are a matter for NHS boards. Podiatry is provided on the basis of clinical need, as judged by a registered podiatrist. As part of NHS service provision, there is no charge to patients for NHS podiatry services.

Elaine Smith

In Lanarkshire, revised criteria for podiatry have stopped general practitioners referring their elderly patients for nail cutting, which is having a negative impact on those patients’ health and wellbeing. Does the cabinet secretary recognise that the majority of elderly people are unable to carry out essential nail cutting for themselves and have a clinical need for the service? Does she accept that the refusal to offer that vital service on the NHS has a disproportionate impact on the poorest and most vulnerable elderly patients, who cannot afford to pay privately? Given that she has indicated to me in a letter that the service could be provided by nursing staff or foot care assistants, will she ensure that it is provided free on the NHS?

Nicola Sturgeon

I am sure that Elaine Smith appreciates that assessment of clinical need in this or any other regard is a matter for clinicians—in this case, for registered podiatrists. When a registered podiatrist considers that foot care is required for clinical reasons, that is provided on the NHS. It is worth pointing out that free personal and nursing care also has a role to play. Personal care services are provided by local authorities at home, without charge, to people aged 65 or over; payments for such care are made for self-funded residents of nursing or care homes. Personal care can include foot care, including nail care.

Individuals should discuss their situations with their local podiatrist, who may be able to offer advice, where there are non-clinical needs, and training for support workers or carers. The podiatry service should always work with individuals and carers to resolve any concerns or anxieties about what can be done. I am happy to give consideration to any constituency cases that Elaine Smith wants to bring to my attention.

Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Many elderly people in Highland have been taken off the list for regular podiatry assessment. Will the cabinet secretary ensure that podiatry services are provided on the NHS to all elderly people who are assessed as being in need of such services? That is a wonderful investment that helps to ensure mobility and independence.

Nicola Sturgeon

As I said to Elaine Smith, clinical assessment is paramount in such cases. Podiatry, like all NHS services, is provided on the basis of assessed clinical need. That assessment should always be made by the appropriate health care professional—in this case, the podiatrist. Where it has been determined that clinical need exists, services should be provided on the NHS.


Glasgow Western Infirmary (Patient Care)



3. To ask the Scottish Executive, in light of the intended closure of Glasgow’s Western infirmary, what action has been taken to ensure that its patients continue to receive a high standard of care. (S3O-11843)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon)

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde will continue to provide high-quality services and to maintain high standards of care for patients at the Western infirmary, which will remain an important acute hospital within the Glasgow network of hospitals until the new south Glasgow hospital is opened and services are transferred there. The board is implementing a significant programme of capital investment to refurbish areas of the Western infirmary and is following up infection control environmental audits to improve the basic fabric of ward areas.

Pauline McNeill

Will the cabinet secretary give me a cast-iron assurance that patients at the Western infirmary will not receive an inferior service while the new Southern is in its planning stages? The closure of Stobhill hospital is expected to put added pressure on the Western and its sister hospital, Gartnaval, with regard to acute and emergency beds. What will the cabinet secretary do to ensure that there is not undue pressure on beds at the Western infirmary and how will she satisfy herself that, during the on-going changes, there will be no detriment to the services that are used by patients who attend the Western infirmary?

Nicola Sturgeon

I thank Pauline McNeill for her question and her interest. I can say unequivocally that patients who use the Western infirmary during the period up to the transfer of services to the new Southern general have the right to expect the same standard of care that they would get in any other circumstances. Through the normal methods and means of managing the performance of all NHS boards, I will ensure that that is the case.

As Pauline McNeill is aware, the timetable for the closure of the Western infirmary is 2015-16—once the new south Glasgow site is opened. In the meantime, as I have said, the board intends to fully utilise the Western as an acute hospital and it is committed to investing in it to maintain high-quality standards of care.

As part of the continuing implementation of the acute services review, vascular services from both the Southern general and Glasgow royal infirmary have been relocated to the Western on an interim basis. Likewise, renal surgery services will transfer there from the GRI around the end of the year.

Pauline McNeill might be interested to know that the health board has allocated £2.5 million of capital investment to refurbish F block, the former Beatson centre, to accommodate medical beds. Levels 7, 8 and 9 of the phase 1 building are currently being refurbished to accommodate renal and vascular services, and that investment amounts to more than £5 million.

I hope that all those things give Pauline McNeill the assurance that she seeks—that patients using the Western until such times as services transfer to the new Southern general can expect the highest possible standards of care.


Football Clubs (Supporters Trusts)



4. To ask the Scottish Executive whether it has a position on the involvement of supporters trusts in the ownership and governance of football clubs, given their community links and benefits. (S3O-11820)

The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Shona Robison)

Football clubs and the relevant football authorities are responsible for managing how they run their clubs and the sport. We expect the footballing authorities and clubs to ensure that appropriate mechanisms are in place to allow their supporters’ views to be represented.

The Scottish Government fully recognises the valuable role that supporters play in football, which is why we have provided funding to Supporters Direct in Scotland, a group that ensures that ordinary supporters have their voices heard.

Bill Butler

The minister is no doubt aware of the plight of Dundee Football Club, which has slipped into administration for the second time in seven years. The situation has resulted in the club receiving a record 25-point penalty from the Scottish Football League. Dundee FC is one of Scotland’s oldest clubs, with a proud history. Has the minister been in touch with the club’s administrator and HM Revenue and Customs to discuss what assistance the Government can offer to the club’s supporters at this time?

Does the minister agree that this sorry situation highlights the need to continue to back Supporters Direct in Scotland and its message that supporters should be given a greater say in the running of their clubs?

Shona Robison

I am more than aware of the issues surrounding Dundee Football Club, some of which are complex financial issues. Bill Butler should be aware that Dee 4 Life has representation on the club’s board. Given the complex financial issues, I am not sure that a greater role by supporters on the board would necessarily have made a big difference in this case. Nevertheless, a greater role for supporters on boards is something that we would wish to encourage.

On the specific matters that Bill Butler raised, I am in contact with Dundee FC and with a number of fans who have been in touch with me. I will meet representatives of the club on Saturday. Bill Butler will appreciate that actions sometimes speak louder than words, and I hope that he might join a number of other politicians who will be attending the Dundee match, watching the team play Partick Thistle on Saturday—paying at the turnstile, of course, and importantly so in this case. Bill Butler is more than welcome to join us; I am sure that he would be made very welcome by the board. That is an open invitation to him, and to anybody else in the chamber, to join us on Saturday.

I am tempted to say, that is if they are not attending Stranraer’s game on Saturday—but I will not.

Marlyn Glen (North East Scotland) (Lab)

I am pleased to hear that the minister will attend Dens Park. As has been said, the thoughts of football fans in general and, in particular, Dundonians, are with Dundee FC and the 25-point penalty meted out to it. Will the minister meet the Scottish Football League to discuss the situation and the impact on Dundee and the local economy?

Shona Robison

The process from here on in is that the first appeal will be made to the SFL. Beyond that, the appeal will be to the Scottish Football Association. Yesterday, I met the SFA to discuss a number of matters. During the meeting, I raised the issue of Dundee FC to ensure that the SFA is aware of the issues that have been brought to my attention by fans and the club. As would be expected, given that the SFA is involved in the appeal process, it would not necessarily have been appropriate for the SFA to pass comment, but I can assure the member that it is well aware of the issues involved. As a local member, I will continue to do all that I can to support Dundee FC, which is, of course, a great institution for the city and one of Scotland’s very important football clubs.


Hospitals (Patient Care)



5. To ask the Scottish Executive what action is being taken to improve the standard of patient care in hospitals. (S3O-11782)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon)

Patient safety and quality of care are key priorities for both the Scottish Government and the national health service. Through the quality strategy, we continue to support the NHS to ensure that it delivers the quality health care that patients want and deserve. Programmes such as leading better care, releasing time to care and the patient safety and health care associated infection programmes are key drivers for improvement, and the proposed care governance approach that is being taken forward by the chief nursing officer will further support care delivery.

Margaret Smith

I am sure that the cabinet secretary will agree that the recent survey by the Royal College of Nursing, which concluded that 54 per cent of nurses feel prevented from providing care with dignity to a standard that they are happy with, is very worrying, especially as three quarters of those who felt that they could not provide such care cited a lack of staff as the main problem.

Will robust risk assessments be carried out to consider carefully the impact of any proposed changes to the nursing workforce on the safety and quality of patient care? Given the RCN’s commitment to look at ways in which it can manage services better and manage the workforce better, will the cabinet secretary give an assurance that she will work with the RCN and health boards to minimise nursing job losses wherever that is possible?

Nicola Sturgeon

I thank Margaret Smith for an important question. Input from the RCN and professional bodies such as the RCN is always extremely welcome and helpful. It is essential that we use the leadership, the professionalism and the skills of nurses, and of midwives and allied health professionals, to take forward the quality strategy and the other programmes of work that I have mentioned.

Members will have heard me say previously in the chamber and elsewhere that, as the health service faces up to the efficiency challenge that lies ahead, it must concentrate as far as possible on non-staffing efficiencies. However, where workforce changes are proposed, it is essential that they are robustly risk assessed—I assure Margaret Smith that risk assessment is part of the boards’ workforce planning arrangements—and that any staffing changes do not compromise the quality of care. One of the things that I have done this year is to establish a national scrutiny group to look at the boards’ proposed workforce changes to ensure the vital relationship between those changes and the quality of care. Of course, the RCN is represented on the scrutiny group.


Chlamydia (Testing)



6. To ask the Scottish Executive what action it is taking to encourage sexually active individuals under the age of 25 to undergo testing for chlamydia. (S3O-11846)

The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Shona Robison)

As part of our national sexual health strategy “Respect and Responsibility” and national outcomes 2008-11, national health service boards are required to ensure that young people have access to sexual health information, advice and services, including chlamydia testing and treatment, when that is appropriate. NHS boards are also required to comply with service standards set by NHS Quality Improvement Scotland, which support testing for chlamydia in the under 25s.

Elaine Murray

The sexual health statistics, which were published last week, highlighted the work that needs to be done to ensure that chlamydia testing is targeted at the 16 to 25 age group. NHS Dumfries and Galloway has a commendable rate of testing but also has the highest proportion of positive tests among young men, at 18 per cent. Are further initiatives planned to make young men in particular aware of the need for prevention and testing?

Shona Robison

I congratulate NHS Dumfries and Galloway on the work that it has undertaken to encourage young people who might be at risk to come forward for testing and treatment. It is clear that the board sees the benefits of testing and treatment for improved sexual health outcomes for that group of young people. I am sure that it will be keen to continue the service and, perhaps, to customise and develop it to meet local circumstances. I will be happy to furnish the member with information about developments in the area.

Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

The minister will be aware of concerns about the rise in sexually transmitted infections among older members of the population. It might be comparatively simple to target messages at under-25s, who might be at college or university. What is the Government doing to try to target sexual health messages at more middle-aged members of society?

Shona Robison

The issue was identified in the sexual health strategy. Society has changed, and people quite often develop new relationships in their middle years. It is important that we realise that STIs are not the domain just of young people. Therefore, the strategy to do with the information that is given to the older age group is important, as are treatment and testing. The matter is being taken forward as part of our sexual health strategy, in recognition of the changing society in which we live.

Question 7 has been withdrawn.


Malignant Melanoma



8. To ask the Scottish Executive what action it is taking to address the incidence of malignant melanoma. (S3O-11764)

The Scottish Government recognises the importance of tackling skin cancer. Through improvements in cancer services, education and legislation, we are seeking to reduce incidence rates and improve outcomes for patients.

Nanette Milne

Given figures that show a 71 per cent rise in malignant melanoma diagnoses during the past decade, will the minister agree to look at the age incidence and consider whether the age of presentation of malignant melanoma is changing? Will she also agree to consider the potential need to improve awareness education for different age groups, targeting schoolchildren and their parents, as has been done in other countries?

Shona Robison

I am always happy to consider ideas that are raised. I will take forward Nanette Milne’s point.

I am sure that the member is aware of good things that we have been doing, such as the sunsmart campaign, which is run by Cancer Research UK and targets all age groups with the same key public health messages. We should remember that Scotland has been at the forefront of legislating to tackle sunbed use. Members of the Scottish Parliament came together to agree to an important step forward in ensuring that people are aware of the risks associated with sunbed use. There is always more to do, but we should acknowledge the progress that has been made.


Community Empowerment Action Plan



9. To ask the Scottish Government what plans it has to develop and expand the impact of the community empowerment action plan. (S3O-11799)

The Minister for Housing and Communities (Alex Neil)

The Scottish Government launched the community empowerment action plan jointly with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities in March 2009. I am pleased with the progress that has been made during the past year and a half.

We have much to build on as we go forward, such as the work that is being done to support the transfer of assets from councils to community groups, programmes to improve how agencies work with communities, and a range of examples, from across the country, of what can be achieved by communities doing things for themselves.

Bill Kidd

Most members put increased community participation and empowerment at the core of Scottish politics. In the context of invigorating democracy, I am sure that the minister is aware of the upcoming national event in Govan, which aims to highlight the success of community-based projects. What further plans does the Scottish Government have to build on the current successes of community asset ownership?

Alex Neil

I am delighted that an event celebrating creative approaches to regeneration will be held in Govan, and I am pleased to say that a senior Scottish Government official will be a key speaker at that event.

I agree that, in the right circumstances, community organisations owning assets can be a powerful way to develop communities. I was pleased to speak at the first of the Development Trusts Association Scotland seminars, and I understand that the programme is progressing well, with increasing interest being shown by local authorities in the possible benefits of community asset ownership. I look forward to seeing the programme’s final report next year.


Armed Forces Personnel (Health Statistics)



10. To ask the Scottish Government whether it holds statistics relating to the incidence of cancer, stillbirth and birth deformities in Scottish armed forces personnel and their families. (S3O-11812)

The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Shona Robison)

The Scottish Government holds no specific records relating to the incidence of cancer, stillbirth and birth deformities in respect of armed forces personnel and their families who are based in Scotland. We understand that the Ministry of Defence, similarly, does not break down military statistics by geographical area of birth, upbringing or recruitment.

Bill Wilson

In view of the considerable circumstantial evidence linking cancers, stillbirths and birth deformities to exposure to the depleted uranium that is used in armour-piercing shells in Iraq and Afghanistan, for example, would the Scottish Government consider collecting information on the incidence of such problems and investigating whether they might be linked to depleted uranium exposure? Or will it ask the United Kingdom Government to do so, if it is ruled to be a reserved matter?

I am not sure that the Scottish Government would be best placed to do that, but we are certainly open to discussing the matter with the MOD. It might be best if I write to the member with more detail on that.


NHS Lanarkshire (Meetings)



11. To ask the Scottish Executive when it last met representatives of NHS Lanarkshire. (S3O-11832)

I and my officials meet all health boards regularly. The most recent meeting with NHS Lanarkshire representatives was on 25 October 2010.

Andy Kerr

A number of constituents have approached me because they have been unable to obtain admittance to accident and emergency services at Hairmyres hospital. It has, in effect, been closed to those local people. I have taken the matter up with NHS Lanarkshire, as it is a great concern to them. Is the cabinet secretary aware of the situation? What discussions have she or her officials had with NHS Lanarkshire, the royal colleges or any other relevant bodies on the matter? What plans are in place to ensure that the situation does not occur again?

Nicola Sturgeon

I understand from NHS Lanarkshire that, for a short period in October, Hairmyres hospital experienced high levels of activity. However, I can tell the member and the chamber that Hairmyres hospital was never closed to new emergency admissions. The member will be aware that when there are peaks of activity in any of the three Lanarkshire hospitals they operate as an emergency clinical network, which means that patients can be redirected between the three hospitals to ensure that they receive the treatment that they require without delay. That situation occurs in all health boards in Scotland—it is not unique to Lanarkshire.

I ask the member to reflect on the fact that, had the previous Labour Administration had its way, there would be only two hospitals operating full accident and emergency services in Lanarkshire—one fewer than there are at the moment.

Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con)

According to figures that were released in August, the number of patients aged 65 and over with a recorded diagnosis of malnutrition and treated in acute hospitals in NHS Lanarkshire rose from 66 in 2007-08 to 70 in 2008-09. There were also increases in NHS Ayrshire and Arran and in NHS Forth Valley, in contrast to a fall in the overall Scottish figure. What measures is the minister taking to address this vexing issue, which affects some of Scotland’s most vulnerable people?

Nicola Sturgeon

Margaret Mitchell raises an extremely important issue. We all recognise the problem of malnutrition among all older people, not just those in hospital. She will recognise that, although we should not be complacent about what happens to patients in hospital, many older patients are admitted to hospital already suffering from malnutrition.

The issue of food, fluid and nutrition in hospitals is a huge priority. Over the past couple of years, we have issued new guidance to hospitals to ensure that all patients—not just older patients, although it is often particularly important for older patients—get access to the food and nutrition that they need in hospital. That is very important for their general wellbeing and for the process of recovering from whatever they are suffering from.

We have also done a great deal of work to ensure such things as protected meal times within hospitals, so that older people who require assistance with eating get that assistance. The issue is hugely important. I give Margaret Mitchell an absolute assurance that I will continue to work with NHS boards to ensure that any issues that are identified in this regard are properly and adequately addressed.


Insulin Pump Therapy



12. To ask the Scottish Executive whether there has been an increase in the number of patients receiving insulin pump therapy in the past three years and, if so, what the cost has been to the national health service. (S3O-11853

The Minister for Public Health and Sport (Shona Robison)

Between February 2007 and the end of 2009, the number of people with type 1 diabetes using an insulin pump increased from around 200 to about 553.

Data on the total cost to the NHS of insulin pump therapy are not held centrally. However, NHS Quality Improvement Scotland has calculated the cost of a pump at around £2,000 and the associated insulin and consumables at around £1,800 a year.

The main resource element, of course, is the staff who are needed to deliver the education programmes that people with diabetes must complete before deciding whether to start insulin pump therapy.

David Stewart

Does the minister accept that the uptake and availability of insulin pumps across NHS board areas is a serious issue? What further steps is the Government taking to avoid a postcode lottery for patients who have insulin-dependent diabetes, particularly in terms of paediatric provision?

Shona Robison

The member has raised the issue previously and I acknowledge his long-standing interest in the matter. As he is aware, we have been very proactive with boards, including asking for their plans, to ensure that we increase the number of people who can access an insulin pump. He is also aware of our work on the national procurement insulin pump framework, which has been designed in such a way as to release savings that can be reinvested in diabetes services. Thus far, 156 pumps have been purchased through that mechanism with maximum potential savings of around £100,000. More needs to be done and I am very keen to see more action in that direction. It is a good way of ensuring that we maximise the money that goes directly to diabetes services.

Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)

I absolutely share David Stewart’s concerns about a postcode lottery. For instance, the figures for NHS Grampian show that only 2 per cent of those who have insulin-dependent diabetes and who qualify for a pump have access to insulin pump therapy. The Scottish diabetes action plan does not project an increase in the number of those who will gain access to such therapy. In view of the apparent postcode lottery, will the minister consider reviewing the guidance to NHS health boards on the provision of insulin pumps?

Shona Robison

As I am sure the member is aware, the Scottish diabetes action plan, to which she referred and which was published in August, sets out a series of actions that are designed to support boards in making significant and sustained progress in improving pump provision. Progress should include the development of waiting time criteria for pumps and a national insulin pump study day, the aim of which is to ensure that staff are aware of requirements. There is a mixed picture, as we have discussed previously in the chamber. The member cited the figure for NHS Grampian. If we look at the figure for NHS Fife, which is 4.4 per cent, and that for NHS Tayside, which is 4.6 per cent, we see that other boards are further along the path that we would like all boards to follow. The issue is important. Through the procurement framework, we have set incentives for boards to use the mechanism and, in turn, release savings from which they can benefit by making investment in their services. We are encouraging boards on a number of fronts down that road. I hope that that will bear fruit over time.


XMRV (Blood Testing)



13. To ask the Scottish Executive what its policy is on blood testing for the presence of xenotropic murine leukaemia virus-related virus. (S3O-11828)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon)

Based on up-to-date medical and scientific advice from a range of expert advisory bodies and committees, the Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service in Scotland does not currently screen blood for xenotropic murine leukaemia virus-related virus as the virus has no known association with any blood-borne infection.

Charlie Gordon

I understand that patients who suffer from long-term conditions such as myalgic encephalomyelitis are no longer allowed to donate blood. One such patient—a constituent of mine—has been refused a referral for a blood test by her general practitioner on ethical grounds, a view that her local health board backs. Does the cabinet secretary recognise the increased concern among such patients? If so, how will she address it?

Nicola Sturgeon

I thank Charlie Gordon for raising the issue. I understand the concern of such patients. Indeed, a member of the public asked me a question on the topic at the public question and answer session at the Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board annual review on Monday this week.

Charlie Gordon is right in what he says. As I said, a risk assessment of a possible link between XMRV and ME/chronic fatigue syndrome found no evidence of a link or a risk of transmission to transfusion patients. However, the assessment led to recognition that donor selection criteria guidelines for people who have ever had ME/CFS were not in line with the guidelines for other relapsing conditions. In those cases, deferral is lifelong, but that is to protect the potential donor, not the blood recipient. The United Kingdom blood services standing advisory committee on the care and selection of donors and the joint professional advisory committee therefore took the opportunity to update the guidelines. As a result, from 1 November this year, any patient who has ever had ME/CFS will be permanently deferred from donating blood to protect their own health, not to protect those receiving the blood.

I am sure that Charlie Gordon accepts that, in such cases, the Scottish Government must act on the basis of the best scientific evidence and advice that it has. In that respect, we followed the most recent advice that was given to us.


Dentistry (Far North)



14. To ask the Scottish Executive how national health service dentists can be encouraged to relocate to the far north. (S3O-11784)

Responsibility for the overall provision of national health service dental services in the area rests with NHS Highland. The board is undertaking a range of measures to improve access to NHS dental services in the Highlands.

Jamie Stone

The same NHS Highland has warned that, if gaps cannot be filled in the current overstretched service, people could face having to travel to Inverness for out-of-hours and emergency appointments. Indeed, although the new publicly funded dental unit at Thurso’s Dunbar hospital, which we all welcome, will open in the spring, there is already concern about whether we can staff the unit. By the end of this month, as many as three out of four posts may not be filled.

Does the minister agree that the situation is urgent? Despite the Scottish Executive’s best efforts, it transcends decisions made by NHS Highland. Will she agree at least to meet me and representatives of the community to discuss how we could tackle the issue constructively and in a forward-looking manner?

Shona Robison

I am always in favour of constructive discussions, so I would be happy to do that. However, we should acknowledge the efforts that NHS Highland is making, such as its international recruitment initiative. Although it has had some setbacks with people leaving, which happens, it is trying again to recruit through that initiative.

I should also say that between 1 September 2009 and August this year more than 14,000 new patients were registered with an NHS dentist in Highland. They were not previously registered anywhere in Highland, so real progress has been made.

The £5.6 million over two years that has been allocated to the primary and community care premises modernisation programme is being used to provide new dental premises in Caithness. A four-surgery dental clinic is under construction in Thurso in the grounds of Dunbar hospital.

The health board seeks to do more. Although there are long-standing challenges with dental provision within the Highlands, we should also recognise some of the positive steps that NHS Highland is taking.

Will the minister tell us about the first destinations of dentists who are trained in the University of Aberdeen dental school and other Scottish dental schools? How many of them have been attracted to the far north?

Shona Robison

I will be happy to provide Rob Gibson with the detail of that. The University of Aberdeen dental school has clearly identified encouraging students to go out on vocational placements in the north of Scotland as important because it gives those students the opportunity to consider basing themselves in areas in the north of Scotland once they are qualified. I am confident that that will produce real benefits for those areas, but I am happy to write to him with more detail on that.

Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)

The minister is aware of discussions about the provision of salaried dentists in areas that have shortages of dental practices, but progress on that seems to be delayed. Will she ensure that any barriers to employing salaried dentists are dealt with quickly?

Shona Robison

I can say with certainty that the employment of salaried dentists has been a tremendous success in the NHS. Through the recruitment of salaried dentists, we have tackled long waits the length and breadth of Scotland, so I am not sure whether the picture that Jackie Baillie seeks to paint has any basis in fact whatever.


National Health Service (Training)



15. To ask the Scottish Executive whether training in the national health service continues to be a priority for the Scottish Government. (S3O-11823)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon)

Yes—training is a priority. Our priority is to deliver the highest-quality health care to people in Scotland by providing person-centred, safe and effective care. Appropriate training is an essential part of that and is required of all NHS boards as part of the staff governance standard.

Helen Eadie

Will the cabinet secretary note that, in NHS Fife’s area, e-mails have been sent to tell clinicians to stop all training immediately? Were they sent with the Scottish Government’s knowledge, consent and blessing? If not, why is that happening in Fife?

Nicola Sturgeon

I am not aware of the e-mails to which Helen Eadie refers. If she cares to copy them to me, I will be happy to investigate and come back to her with my view on them. I have learned from experience to ask to see the full context before giving a full answer.

Helen Eadie is right to raise the issue of training. Much that we are talking about in relation to how the NHS will face up to the difficult financial climate involves sensible service redesign, to make services more efficient and improve their quality for patients. That will be achieved only if we have a well-supported, well-trained and skilled workforce.

All the work that we do on training is important. At the start of last year, we published “A Force for Improvement”, which is the workforce framework for the NHS in Scotland. As I said in my first answer, we also have the staff governance standard, which says that all staff will be appropriately trained. Systems of personal development planning and review are in place across the NHS. We also have the knowledge and skills framework that lies at the heart of the agenda for change.

I assure Helen Eadie absolutely that, notwithstanding the difficult financial climate that the NHS faces—in common with everybody else—training and supporting our staff will be a key priority.


Out-of-hours Medical Services



16. To ask the Scottish Executive what action it is taking to increase confidence in out-of-hours medical coverage and deal with confusion regarding accessing services. (S3O-11765)

We are committed to ensuring that all patients have the necessary information to guide them in accessing safe, timely and appropriate out-of-hours health care that is provided by a range of health professionals.

Alex Johnstone

The cabinet secretary might be aware of the perceived threat to the Grampian medical emergency department—GMED—coverage in the Stonehaven and Mearns area. Will she guarantee that that service does not face an immediate threat and that any review that NHS Grampian undertakes will ensure that a proper service is maintained in that area?

Nicola Sturgeon

I am aware that the GMED out-of-hours service has considered how to maintain a safe and quality service while trying to better match clinical capacity to patient demand. Service managers are meeting clinical and non-clinical staff across the Grampian board area to examine potential options for that. However, I assure Alex Johnstone that that is work in progress. To date, no proposals or option appraisals have been tabled. I am sure that he will also be reassured to know that any issues and concerns that are raised during the exercise will be taken into account fully before any changes are recommended, let alone approved.

Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD)

One aspect of out-of-hours care is the availability for people with possible epileptic seizures of access to electroencephalogram technicians, who operate—broadly speaking—from 9 to 5, Monday to Friday. Will the minister reassure me about the number of such technicians who are in post? Do health boards have effective protocols for dealing with out-of-hours services in that situation?

Nicola Sturgeon

Several measures are in place. Robert Brown might be referring to the report that was recently published on the issue. I do not have at my fingertips the number of technicians and the detail for which he asks, but I am happy to write to give him that information as soon as possible.