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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, October 25, 2012


Contents


General Question Time


Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 (Glasgow Provan)



1. To ask the Scottish Government what value of assets has been recovered from criminals as a result of crimes in Glasgow Provan under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 in each of the last five years. (S4O-01386)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

Our priority is disrupting and dismantling criminal enterprises, and I welcome the excellent work undertaken by the police and prosecutors to recover the ill-gotten gains from organised criminals across Scotland. More than £60 million has been recovered through that effective legislation since 2003. These matters are dealt with by the police and the Crown Office—they do not hold proceeds of crime data at the level of detail that has been requested. To collate that level of detail would be complex and labour intensive due to the number of cases involved and the technical difficulties associated with linking individual cases to specific geographical locations.

I pose the following question to the minister. Should the communities that are most affected by drugs crime receive a significant share of the proceeds, which are very effectively collected by the courts?

Kenny MacAskill

They do receive a significant share, but Mr Martin forgets that crime knows no geographical boundaries, which is why I addressed the Association of Chief Police Officers of England and Wales. Many of the problems that are faced by communities that are blighted by drugs are similar whether in the West Midlands or in Merseyside. I pose a counter-question: if a drug delivery from Liverpool that was bound for Glasgow Provan is disrupted elsewhere by the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency, who claims the proceeds of the crime? Is it the responsibility of Liverpool, is it the responsibility of Provan or does the responsibility lie elsewhere?

Equally, the principle is that we pour money back into the areas that suffer most. We will not go in the direction of many Labour members, which is to have a postcode lottery. Far too many areas in Scotland are blighted and each and every area is entitled to some support.


Sea Lice



2. To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking on breaches of fish farm regulations in relation to the overuse of chemical treatments for sea lice infestations. (S4O-01387)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

The use and release of sea lice medicines from fish cages is regulated by the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. Where evidence of significant breaches of licence conditions are uncovered, these are handled in accordance with SEPA’s published Enforcement Policy. The number of incidents where such licence breaches have occurred is small, and they have normally been dealt with by reports being made to the procurator fiscal.

Would the Scottish Government consider a moratorium on new fish farms until the current farmers resolve sea-lice issues?

Paul Wheelhouse

I welcome Jean Urquhart’s question, but the Scottish Government is committed to the sustainable economic growth of the agriculture industry while giving due regard to the wider marine environment, which I understand is the basis of the member’s question.

The Scottish Government introduced the Aquaculture and Fisheries (Scotland) Bill on 3 October 2012 and the bill, together with the accompanying documents, was published on 4 October 2012. The bill will strengthen the regulatory framework so that it continues to support delivery of sustainable growth. I believe that that is the correct approach for the Government to take at this time. If Jean Urquhart wishes to write to me, I will give her more details.

Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)

If the aim of increasing production of all farmed fish by 50 per cent by 2020 is achieved, it will lead to a subsequent increase in use of chemical treatments. What will the minister do to ensure that those increases are taken into account when the Government looks at reforming the regulatory system?

Paul Wheelhouse

It is true to say that as the sector grows the amount of fish and the biomass within particular sea lochs will increase, and that the need to introduce medicines to control a larger population of fish will also increase. I accept that, but it is important to note that the increase in the amount of medicines that are being deployed might not translate automatically into an increase in toxicity. People are trying to reduce the toxicity of medicines that are currently used, so the volume of medicines used may increase because they have a lower impact on the environment. I am happy to correspond with Ms Baker on that point.


Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Enforcement Actions)



3. To ask the Scottish Government what powers the Scottish Environment Protection Agency has to ensure full compliance with laws on emissions by waste incineration plants and what enforcement actions are available to it. (S4O-01388)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

Wherever possible, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency seeks to work with regulated businesses to help them to comply with regulations. When businesses wilfully or negligently harm the environment, SEPA has a range of enforcement powers that it uses to ensure that the environment is protected. Those powers include suspending or revoking a business’s permit to operate, and recommending prosecution to the procurator fiscal.

Christina McKelvie

I impress on the minister one of the issues that has arisen in the process of granting a Pollution Prevention and Control (Scotland) Regulations 2000 licence for the proposed Dovesdale plant near Stonehouse. Objectors have had difficulty in adding their objections when further questions have been asked and answered by the company, which in this case is Scotgen (South Lanarkshire) Ltd.

Given that the Scotgen (Dumfries) Ltd plant at Dargavel has not produced one iota of energy and has committed hundreds of breaches of environmental legislation, and that it plans to use the same technology at Dovesdale as it is using at Dargavel, can the minister reassure my constituents that he will do everything that he can do to ensure that SEPA has all the powers that it requires to fulfil the statutory requirements in protecting our environment?

Paul Wheelhouse

SEPA already has a wide range of powers to ensure that the environment and human health are protected. Those begin with the permanent application process and continue through commissioning and plant operation. Nevertheless, our joint programme with SEPA on better environmental regulation seeks to ensure that SEPA has the right range of flexible enforcement options available to it.

On the Dovesdale proposal, now that the application has been withdrawn, any further application would have to start from square 1. SEPA has informed the applicant that any new application must contain the necessary information that was missing from the original application. If a further application is made, there will be ample opportunity for the public to participate.

I understand that SEPA has offered to meet the Dovesdale action campaign to discuss the issues that it has with the consultation process, and I will ask to be kept informed of those discussions.


NHS Tayside (Patient Transport)



4. To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with NHS Tayside regarding patient transport between Perth and Dundee. (S4O-01389)

The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Alex Neil)

Scottish Government ministers and officials meet all health boards on a regular basis to discuss a wide range of issues. However, arrangements for local patient transport provision are a matter for NHS Tayside to discuss with the appropriate local authorities and transport providers.

Murdo Fraser

As the cabinet secretary may be aware, NHS Tayside took the decision in the summer to reduce the vital 333 bus service between Perth royal infirmary and Ninewells hospital in Dundee. The link is used by patients, relatives and staff—in particular by staff who work evenings, who have been put to real inconvenience by the service reduction. Will the cabinet secretary, when he next meets NHS Tayside, impress on it the need for a full reinstatement of that vital link?

Alex Neil

There are two points to make. First, my understanding is that some improvements have already been made in the 333 service and in other services that are relevant to that particular connectivity. However, I am happy to take the opportunity to try to ensure that transport arrangements between Perth royal infirmary and Ninewells are up to the required standard and frequency.

Secondly, I draw Murdo Fraser’s attention to a national short-life working group that has been examining NHS transport issues throughout the country, and which is due to report fairly soon.

Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)

I thank the cabinet secretary for that additional information. I agree that NHS Tayside has made some movement, but more is needed. It is clear that there are problems where services are being moved from one hospital to another in order to improve their quality. That has happened in Tayside and in other areas.

Will the cabinet secretary ensure that the short-life working group looks specifically at where services have been centralised with the result that staff and relatives have to travel? The new service must provide for that as well.

Alex Neil

All those issues are covered by the remit of the short-life working group. I am keen to ensure that we provide adequate transport arrangements for patients, visitors and staff, because those are essential to the efficient working of the national health service in Scotland.


Ferry Services (Islay)



5. To ask the Scottish Government how it assesses whether the provision of ferry services is adequate for the residents of Islay. (S4O-01390)

The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown)

A needs-based assessment was used to determine the routes and ferry services required for Islay. We published our proposals in the draft ferries plan for consultation in December 2011. A final ferries plan setting out the way forward will be published before the end of this year.

Jamie McGrigor

Will the minister urge CalMac to respond to the wishes of local residents and businesses on Islay and Jura for their ferry services? Above all, will he ensure that the extra sailing to and from Islay that has been introduced for the winter timetable will be kept for the summer months?

Keith Brown

I would have hoped that Jamie McGrigor would welcome that extra sailing and I would have hoped that he would have welcomed the extra sailing during the summer timetable, from Kennacraig to Port Ellen and from Port Askaig to Kennacraig. Obviously, CalMac introduced the extra sailing in response to local concerns and it has been very much welcomed. Whether we can continue with it will be partially dependent on the outcome of the final ferries plan—the draft ferries plan has been issued for consultation. I have had substantial responses from local people and many pieces of correspondence from the local member on the issue, but I have had no response from Jamie McGrigor or the Tory party on the draft ferries plan. I will, however, look at the issue and CalMac will look at it, as it always does, to try to respond to local needs.


Healthy Eating



6. To ask the Scottish Government what it is doing to promote healthy eating. (S4O-01391)

The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)

We have introduced a range of measures to improve diet and are spending over £7.5 million to March 2015 on projects to encourage healthy eating, from community initiatives in deprived areas, to the healthy living award in catering settings. We are also working closely with the food industry—including manufacturers, retailers and caterers—to reduce the salt, fat and added sugar content of products, and we are working with the education sector to teach people about the importance of healthy eating. Further, in a significant step forward, as I announced yesterday, we are recommending traffic-light colours on all pre-packaged foods sold in Scotland, which will make it easier for consumers to make healthier food choices.

Bob Doris

I was delighted to read that our new Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing recently reaffirmed his belief that free school meals have substantial health benefits, and I welcome the fact that the increased entitlement to free school meals that was given by the Scottish Government in 2009 has led to 44,000 children benefiting. However, will the minister ensure that there are cross-departmental discussions in the Government on how provision of free school meals can be expanded in future years, given the clear public health benefits? I know that we are in difficult financial times, but planning for the future is essential.

Michael Matheson

We have since 2007 taken forward a range of measures to extend provision of free school meals to children and young people, which includes providing free school meals to children from families who are in receipt of working tax credits and child tax credits so that they can receive a healthy meal at school. Those actions have seen the number of children and young people who are registered to receive free school meals rising from 16 per cent when we inherited the scheme in 2007 to almost 20 per cent of pupils in 2012, which totals 130,000.

The Government recognises the benefits that can be gained by extending provision of free school meals, but in the present financial climate there are difficulties in extending provision further. However, we will continue to look at what steps we can take to increase provision of healthy free school meals.

On healthy eating among infants, what more can the Government do in relation to supporting and promoting breastfeeding to improve health and help to save the national health service millions of pounds, as was cited in a recent UNICEF report?

Michael Matheson

Breastfeeding has a very important part to play in helping to promote healthy eating among young children. We have set a range of targets for NHS boards to promote breastfeeding within their areas and to focus particularly on those in more deprived communities. We wish to see boards making progress in this area, and it is an issue that we continue to pursue with them.


Scottish Rail Franchise



7. To ask the Scottish Government what implications have arisen for the Scottish rail franchise as a result of the recent United Kingdom Government decision on the west coast main line. (S4O-01392)

The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown)

When the Department for Transport publishes its report on the review of the west coast franchise debacle at the turn of the year, we shall assess whether there are lessons to be learned for future procurement of rail passenger services in Scotland.

John Finnie

Will the minister advise me what discussions the Scottish Government has had with the UK Government on the transfer of powers over rail, which could allow public sector models to form part of any review of the rail franchise in Scotland? Does he agree that publicly run railways would offer the public a better deal than the current fragmented and inefficient model?

Keith Brown

Under the current devolution settlement, it is possible for public sector and not-for-profit bids to be submitted in relation to future provision of rail services in Scotland.

We have had a number of discussions with the UK Government about relaxing the franchise arrangements. Indeed, I spoke to the Secretary of State for Transport yesterday about the implications of the decision on the west coast main line. However, as I made clear during the debate on rail that we had recently, it is for individual bidders to come forward with their proposals.

The Brown review, which the UK Government has set up, will potentially have implications for the ScotRail franchise if it chooses to make recommendations that would change the basis of future franchise arrangements. To that extent, there may be as yet unknown implications for the ScotRail franchise.

I make it clear that we have no plans, during the next franchise, to introduce a fares structure whereby someone can buy a standard-class ticket and sit in a first-class carriage. [Laughter.]


European Arrest Warrant



8. To ask the Scottish Government how many criminals have been brought back to Scotland through a European arrest warrant. (S4O-01393)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

Separate statistics for those returned under European arrest warrants and those returned under other arrangements have not been kept in all years. However, since the beginning of 2004, between 60 and 70 persons have been returned to Scotland under a European arrest warrant.

Does the cabinet secretary agree that the Home Secretary’s position on the European arrest warrant is at best confused? Will he comment on what impact a short term or permanent opt-out would have on Scotland?

Kenny MacAskill

It is clear from the available figures that the European arrest warrant has increased the number of persons being returned to Scotland to face justice. The Home Office might believe that the framework that governs extraditions from Europe could revert to the Council of Europe convention on extradition of 1957. Irrespective of whether that is possible, however, those arrangements would not be as satisfactory. The actions and attitude of the UK Government towards Europe are jeopardising the administration of justice in Scotland.


Road to Recovery Programme (Methadone)

Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con)



9. To ask the Scottish Government what steps have been taken since the introduction of the road to recovery programme to monitor the number of patients on methadone who have either had their prescription reduced or have ceased taking it. (S4O-01394)

The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Roseanna Cunningham)

Before 2007 and the introduction of the road to recovery programme, such information was not available. To fill the gap, the Government has invested in and enhanced the Scottish drug misuse database. That has improved the information that is available on people who enter drug treatment, people’s pathways through treatment and the outcomes that they achieve. The first release of the information will be published by the Information Services Division of NHS Scotland on 18 December 2012. The report will include information on a cohort of people in specialist drug treatment, including information on prescribed and illicit drug use.

We are committed to ensuring that drugs services in Scotland are as effective as we can make them. That is why we recently commissioned an independent expert group to gather further evidence on opiate replacement therapies that are used to treat people with drug addictions.

The road to recovery programme does not favour one form of treatment over any other. Decisions on the most appropriate treatment for an individual are clinical decisions and are taken in line with the UK guidance, “Drug misuse and dependence: UK guidelines on clinical management”.

Annabel Goldie

I thank the minister for what was possibly the fullest answer that I have ever received to a question of this type in the chamber.

I welcome the fact that the data are to be produced, although it is unfortunate that we will have to wait until December for them. Will the data specifically include a treatment regime for methadone patients whereby they are entitled to know the clinical advice about the duration of the programme and whether there is any possibility, at their request, of having their dosage reduced?

Roseanna Cunningham

The information will contain as much as we can possibly provide at this stage. As Annabel Goldie knows perfectly well, we have made constant and consistent improvements in the information gathering on drugs since the Government came into office in 2007; far more information is available now than there ever was before. However, we are not complacent about the situation that we are in with any aspect of the policy, and that includes opiate replacement therapies.

I know that Annabel Goldie has a great interest in the issue and I will continue to have private discussions with her about the way forward.

Before we move to First Minister’s question time, members will wish to join me in welcoming to the gallery the ambassador of El Salvador, His Excellency Mr Werner Romero. [Applause.]