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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, May 9, 2013


Contents


General Question Time

Question 1, from Murdo Fraser, has not been lodged, but an explanation has been provided.


Scottish Court Service (Meetings)



2. To ask the Scottish Government when the Cabinet Secretary for Justice last met the chief executive of the Scottish Court Service and what issues were discussed. (S4O-02096)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

I meet the chief executive of the Scottish Court Service regularly. The last formal meeting was on 26 March, when I was given an update on SCS plans. I also met Eric McQueen informally at a courts reform bill event for stakeholders on 30 April.

Duncan McNeil

Did the cabinet secretary discuss the recent progress in enabling SCS to access information held by the Department for Work and Pensions and other Whitehall departments in order to pursue Scotland’s 150,000 defaulters on fines? Does he agree that, in order to make real progress, we need to increase the number of dedicated fines enforcement officers to pursue the nearly 6,000 people who need to be pursued each year?

Those officers sometimes operate with a hand behind their back, and they have their job made more difficult by sheriffs and fiscals who continue to impose fines on people who have already defaulted. What action will the cabinet secretary take to address that issue in Scotland?

Kenny MacAskill

Yes, I discussed the issue at the recent informal meeting, following the DWP’s indication that it would allow the Scottish Court Service access to information. I have welcomed the DWP decision, as it will allow the Scottish Court Service easier access to details not simply on benefits but—perhaps more importantly—on the national insurance numbers of those who default while they are in employment. That will make it easier for the SCS to discover where those people are, trace them and take the appropriate action, which the SCS welcomes.

I do not wish to be grudging about the delay in progress, and I thank the DWP for its decision, which will improve the situation. I assure Duncan McNeil that Mr McQueen and those who work under him, and the fines enforcement officers, will take the appropriate steps to move things on.

The imposition of fines on those who have already had imposed on them a penalty that they have not paid is a matter to which judicial independence applies. However, such a factor would be, should be and almost certainly is taken into account by the presiding sheriff.

Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)

Does the cabinet secretary agree that a new justice centre should be built in Dingwall to replace the Inverness and Dingwall courts? Does he agree with Brigadier Hugh Monro that Dingwall should be considered as a location for a replacement for the Porterfield prison? Brigadier Monro thinks that that may well be a good idea in providing justice for the north.

Kenny MacAskill

First, I put on record my thanks and gratitude to Brigadier Monro for his service. He has been an outstanding inspector of prisons, and I would like that to be formally recorded.

Obviously, the building of a new justice centre is a matter for the Scottish Court Service to progress. It has a long-term vision for Scotland that includes justice centres, and the areas that have so far been identified for such centres include the Borders, Fife, Lanarkshire and Highland.

There is merit in what Dave Thompson suggests—as Brigadier Monro has highlighted—with regard to ensuring that prisons and courts are at least proximate, if not co-located. I am sure that the matter regarding Dingwall that the constituency MSP has raised is of interest to the Scottish Court Service and to the Scottish Prison Service.

Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD)

Did the cabinet secretary discuss with the Scottish Court Service why it has reached conclusions on court closures without completing an equality impact assessment? Court closures are likely to impact disproportionately on women, children and the disabled, as the main users of public transport, because much more complex journeys will be involved. Will the cabinet secretary ensure forthwith that the equality impact assessment is finished?

Kenny MacAskill

The equality impact assessment will be dealt with. The Scottish Court Service is addressing matters, taking into account a variety of factors such as the impact on court users and on those who work there, the cost of transport to alternative venues and the availability of transport. All those issues have been factored in and are mentioned in the documentation that the Scottish Court Service has provided.

The Scottish Court Service, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and Victim Support Scotland will ensure that those who have difficulties with or worries or fears about accessing a court are able to access a court, whether such concerns relate to a current court or a future location for a court to which they may have to travel.


Aberdeen Western Peripheral Route (Cap on Costs)



3. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will cap the cost of the Aberdeen western peripheral route project at the current estimate. (S4O-02097)

The Minister for Transport and Veterans announced earlier this week that each council’s future contribution will be capped at £75 million.

Nanette Milne

I thank the cabinet secretary for her very welcome response. I am pleased that the Scottish Conservatives’ pressure has paid off and helped to win a better deal for the north-east and to protect north-east taxpayers by delivering the cap that was announced this week.

Can the minister give an assurance that north-east councils will not have to fund any future maintenance costs for the Aberdeen western peripheral road once it is built?

Nicola Sturgeon

Obviously, the maintenance of the road network will be dealt with in the normal way. We will continue to discuss with both councils involved all issues relating to the western peripheral route during its construction and thereafter, when it is in use.

I hope that all members would agree that the fact that we are now able to press ahead with what is an extremely important piece of infrastructure in the north-east, serving Aberdeen in particular, is a hugely positive development and that the focus now should be on getting on with it and ensuring that the road is available for use in Aberdeen on time and on budget.

Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab)

I agree with the cabinet secretary that the focus should be on making progress. Given that within the WPR project there are a couple of discrete sections—one connects to the airport and the other is from Balmedie to Tipperty—can the cabinet secretary indicate when she expects progress to be made so that at least those discrete sections of the project will be completed and ready to use?

Nicola Sturgeon

As Lewis Macdonald will be well aware, the dualling of the Balmedie to Tipperty section is included in the overall non-profit-distributing contract for the western peripheral route. We have also given a clear commitment to carry out improvements at Haudagain, which will be taken forward separately from the AWPR as soon as its construction and the Balmedie to Tipperty section are completed.

The key point is that we want to press ahead as quickly as is reasonably possible with the main project and its different component parts and, when that is all constructed, with the much-needed improvements around the Haudagain roundabout. We have an absolute commitment to ensuring that that whole project stays on track.

Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)

Given the delays that the AWPR project has already faced, does the cabinet secretary agree that it is irresponsible of Councillor Young of Aberdeen City Council cynically to object to the agreed funding split and that he and his colleagues should honour the funding agreement that was made in 2003 and allow this vital infrastructure project to be progressed in a spirit of co-operation, as Aberdeenshire Council has done?

Nicola Sturgeon

Yes, I do. I absolutely and thoroughly agree with that. As I said in my response to Nanette Milne, the people of the north-east have, frankly, waited long enough for this project and it is time to stop arguing over these matters and have an absolute focus, as the Scottish Government does, on working together to get the project delivered without further delays. That is the priority, and anybody who seeks to divert from that is not doing justice to the people of Aberdeen.


Bus Services



4. To ask the Scottish Government how it supports bus services. (S4O-02098)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

The Scottish Government’s commitment to supporting bus services is clearly demonstrated by the £0.25 billion expended every year in the bus service operators grant, concessionary fares reimbursement, the Scottish green bus fund and the bus investment fund.

Ken Macintosh

I am sure that the cabinet secretary will be aware of the bus reorganisation by FirstGroup in Glasgow and the surrounding area. Is she aware of the impact that that is having on many vital services, which are now being cut for communities in places such as East Renfrewshire? First’s motivation seems to be to prioritise services that make a profit while abandoning the rest. Does the minister now believe that it is time for tougher regulation? Will she give her support and the Government’s to the member’s bill being introduced by my colleague Iain Gray?

Nicola Sturgeon

First, I reiterate the scale of the financial support that the Scottish Government gives to the provision of bus services around the country. I hope that members on all sides of the chamber would welcome that.

Secondly, I am very aware of bus issues in Glasgow, where my constituency is. I know that Ken Macintosh will be as involved in discussions on those issues in his constituency as I am in mine. I appreciate the public’s understandable concern about proposals to change bus services on which they depend.

We will carefully study Iain Gray’s proposals, and it is important that we do so in the right spirit. However, it is important to point out that local authorities have the ability right now to contract for services to meet social needs. Local authorities can enter into agreements with operators for quality partnerships or statutory quality contracts. Therefore, local authorities have powers, and of course the key responsibility for ensuring that bus provision across their areas meets the needs of the populations that they serve lies with them.

We will continue to be as constructive as we can with anybody who makes proposals about how bus services across the country can be even further improved.


Air Pollution (Cities)



5. To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to tackle air pollution in cities. (S4O-02099)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

The Scottish Government is working closely with local authorities, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency and other partners to improve air quality in cities. We support a number of measures, both local and national, to tackle air pollution successfully. They include the establishment of a statutory framework and clear strategic aims for both air quality and transport; the provision of grant funding for local authority actions; and the provision of advice and information through the Scottish air quality website and Scotland’s environment web.

Marco Biagi

The minister will be aware that, under the statutory framework, additional areas in central Edinburgh have been designated as air quality management areas, because they no longer meet the standards. What support can Edinburgh—the local authority and citizens—expect from the Scottish Government in addressing the problem?

Paul Wheelhouse

I am certainly aware of the point that Marco Biagi makes in relation to Great Junction Street, Inverleith Row and Glasgow Road in Corstorphine, which have been added as air quality management areas.

We are committed to improving air quality across the country, and there have been significant reductions in pollution emissions over recent decades through tighter industrial regulation, improved fuel quality, cleaner vehicles and an increased focus on sustainable transport.

The City of Edinburgh Council has produced a comprehensive air quality action plan, and it is working to implement it, with support from the Scottish Government and other bodies. The council is required to report annually on the progress of implementation. In particular, the Scottish Government has provided financial support for air quality monitoring, with specific actions to support the action plans.

In addition, through the future transport fund and other measures, we aim to reduce the impact of transport on our environment. That will support a range of initiatives around sustainable transport, including cycling infrastructure and low-carbon vehicle technology. The Scottish green bus fund, which the Deputy First Minister has mentioned, will also support the transition to low-carbon public transport.

Does the minister believe that the planting of trees in and around cities can help to mitigate the levels of some pollutants?

Paul Wheelhouse

Absolutely. I praise the work that is being done by the City of Edinburgh Council and neighbouring authorities, including Fife Council, to plant 500,000 trees in Lothian and Fife as a means of combating emissions. I recognise the important role that tree planting in urban areas can play in that regard.


Currency

Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab)



6. To ask the Scottish Government what its position is on comments by the chairman of the yes Scotland campaign that a separate Scottish currency would give “more flexibility, more freedom” and “a wider range of economic levers” than its plans for a currency union. (S4O-02100)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

The Scottish ministers have made clear our intention to retain the pound. The first report of the fiscal commission working group—a group of renowned experts including two Nobel laureates, Professors Joe Stiglitz and Jim Mirrlees—proposes a macroeconomic framework that retains the pound and gives the Scottish Government maximum economic policy flexibility. It should be remembered that control over economic policy comes only with independence.

Given Scotland’s contribution to the sterling area, it will be in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom, post referendum, to agree to continued shared use of the pound. In the words of Alistair Darling, if Scotland is independent,

“a currency union is logical”

and

“desirable”.

Kezia Dugdale

I note that the cabinet secretary has chosen to ignore Dennis Canavan’s remarks. We all know that she is dancing on the head of a pin. Given that her currency policy is in complete disarray, is she surprised by today’s poll, which shows support for independence at its lowest point since the yes campaign launched?

Nicola Sturgeon

I am surprised that Kezia Dugdale accuses me of ignoring Dennis Canavan, which I never do. Labour is the party that managed to lose Dennis Canavan from its own ranks, going on to lose the seat that he held.

Let me explain for the benefit of Kezia Dugdale and her colleagues what will happen in the referendum. People will vote on the propositions in the white paper that the Government will publish in the autumn of this year. Parties in elections thereafter will be entirely free to argue their own position, as in any democracy, and, of course, if they gain sufficient support—Labour has struggled with that in recent elections—they will be elected and have the ability to implement their policies.

The proposition that is at the heart of Kezia Dugdale’s question is absolutely absurd. [Interruption.]

Order.

Nicola Sturgeon

If Kezia Dugdale is saying that there must be complete policy agreement between different parts of the yes campaign, does that mean that she agrees with her Tory partners in the no campaign about economic policy, welfare cuts and bringing the UK out of the European Union? We need to be told. [Interruption.]

Order.

The big benefit of independence is that the ability to determine our own policy direction will come to the Scottish Parliament instead of being left in the hands of Westminster Governments that all too often we do not vote for.


OKI Electric (Workforce Reduction)



7. To ask the Scottish Government what its response is to OKI Electric’s plans to reduce the size of its workforce at its Cumbernauld plant by around half. (S4O-02101)

The Minister for Local Government and Planning (Derek Mackay)

We share the member’s concern following OKI’s announcement about its Cumbernauld operation. This is an anxious time for the affected employees and their families, and the Government will continue to do everything that we can to help to establish the most positive outcome.

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth met the OKI management team shortly after the announcement to begin to establish what can be done in that respect. Mr Swinney is visiting Japan this week and he will meet the president and chief executive officer of OKI Data to discuss the range of issues further. We are also maintaining close contact with the company through our partnership action for continuing employment—PACE—initiative, which stands ready to provide a tailored package of help and support for any employees who may be facing redundancy.

Jamie Hepburn

When I met representatives of the workforce at OKI, they made the point that many of the workers there have only ever had the one job and one interview. What specific support might be available to help those who are made redundant in those circumstances to re-enter employment? What support might there be from the Scottish Government to ensure that OKI remains in Cumbernauld for some time to come?

Derek Mackay

The Scottish Government will explore the reasoning behind the apparent decisions in order to ensure that there are as few job losses as possible. Our agencies are working on that as we speak. If job losses cannot be avoided, our PACE initiative, which is led by Skills Development Scotland, will engage to ensure that a tailored package of support is available and that—recognising the points that the member has raised—there is a comprehensive package that will support those who are affected by redundancy.

Question 8 has not been lodged, but an explanation has been provided.


Air Passenger Duty



9. To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with the United Kingdom Government regarding devolving air passenger duty. (S4O-02103)

The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities (Nicola Sturgeon)

The UK Government is very well aware of the Scottish Government’s position on devolving air passenger duty, and we are continuing to make the strong case for its devolution as soon as possible so that we can develop a regime that makes Scotland more competitive.

Colin Keir

Given recent reports, does the cabinet secretary agree that APD causes enormous damage to competitiveness, investment, connectivity and business opportunities, and that, with events such as the Ryder cup and the Commonwealth games coming to Scotland, that damage is something we can do without?

Nicola Sturgeon

Yes, I very much agree with that. The report entitled “The economic impact of Air Passenger Duty”, which was published in February this year, underlined the damage that APD is doing to our airports, our tourism industry and the economy.

Scotland will welcome the world in 2014, courtesy of homecoming, the Commonwealth games and the Ryder cup, but we are in the absolutely absurd situation of increasing costs for people who want to visit Scotland. We believe that the devolution of air passenger duty would enable the development of a regime that supports more direct international air routes, reduces the costs of flights for passengers, and encourages more visitors. That is a good example of why we need powers in the hands of the Scottish Parliament to do what is right for Scotland.

The Scottish Government wants APD to be devolved. Is there a formal commitment or policy to reduce it?

Nicola Sturgeon

If Gavin Brown had heard the speech that I made at Renfrewshire Chamber of Commerce yesterday, he would have heard that question being asked and answered. We want the power for a purpose: so that we can do something about APD, which means reducing it or abolishing it completely so that there is a competitive situation in Scotland. That is our position. It would do Gavin Brown more good if he argued the case for devolving the tax to Scotland with his UK Government colleagues, so that we can do something about it.