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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, March 3, 2011


Contents


Scottish Executive Question Time


Finance and Sustainable Growth


Cities (Sustainable Growth)



1. To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to promote and support sustainable growth in cities. (S3O-13179)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Government’s purpose is to increase sustainable economic growth in all areas of Scotland, including our cities. We have a wide range of policies in place to support that growth.

We are making a substantial investment in Scotland’s cities and urban areas. In the next financial year, resources of more than £34 million from the previous cities growth fund will go to the six city local authorities as part of the general capital grant, and resources of £31.1 million will go to urban regeneration companies—that is being delivered in conjunction with Scottish Enterprise. We have also created the £50 million joint European support for sustainable investment in city areas investment fund.

In transferring responsibility for local economic development and local regeneration to local authorities, we have recognised the key contribution that they can make to growth in their areas. The comprehensive package of measures that is set out in our economic recovery plan will ensure that the Scottish economy will continue to grow and to achieve a rapid and robust recovery in our cities and other areas.

Sandra White

I thank the cabinet secretary for his expansive reply. He will be aware of the publication today of the Sustainable Development Commission Scotland’s fourth annual assessment of progress by the Scottish Government, which notes:

“This Government has set out a much clearer vision than previous administrations”,

which has

“created better structures for promoting sustainable decisions.”

However, the report also notes that, to build on those achievements, greater emphasis on empowering communities to improve their neighbourhoods is needed. Will the cabinet secretary expand on how the Government’s proposed community empowerment bill would achieve those aims?

John Swinney

The Government’s work on the issue is designed to ensure that every opportunity to strengthen and develop communities is seized. That was the case for the pilot projects in which community councils were allocated resources to enable recovery in communities, and that lay at the heart of the work of the town centre regeneration fund into the bargain.

A wider aspect of our work is encouraging communities to assume more responsibility for determining issues in their localities and using that to create common will and common purpose in communities. That will be at the heart of the Government’s agenda in the period ahead.


Businesses and Jobs (Inverclyde)



2. To ask the Scottish Government how it is supporting enterprise agencies in attracting businesses and jobs to Inverclyde. (S3O-13144)

The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather)

In 2009-10, Scottish Enterprise spent £338 million on promoting economic development in Scotland. The Scottish Government provided £281 million of that amount in grant in aid. Scottish Enterprise’s investment and continuing involvement in Riverside Inverclyde, an urban regeneration company, are the focal points of its activity to attract businesses and jobs to the area.

Duncan McNeil

The minister will know that regeneration of a community is about people—about building quality homes for them to live in; creating jobs for them to work at; having schools and colleges that will educate them and allow them to gain additional skills; and, of course, providing the quality services that they require. Given that all those matters face severe spending reductions, what work has the Scottish Government done to measure the impact that the cuts will have on communities such as Inverclyde, which are less resilient to them? If the Scottish Government cannot protect us from Tory cuts, does the minister at least understand and take account of the cuts’ disproportionate impact on communities such as Inverclyde? The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth has recognised that and previously assured me that he would take account of it.

Jim Mather

I recognise the situation that Duncan McNeil portrays. I was educated in Greenock in Inverclyde and I worked there. I remember companies such as Drummond’s, Mitchell’s, Hastie’s, Kincaid’s, Scott’s and Lithgow’s, which all contracted and have gone.

Duncan McNeil must face some inconvenient truths. The previous Administration failed in its management of our economy. He and others have stood against tax powers that would give Scotland more resilience. At the end of a period of Labour Government, the United Kingdom is more unequal than it has been since 1929. This is the third most unequal country in the western world.

However, we are rolling up our sleeves to work with Inverclyde and local government, which has primary responsibility for local regeneration, openly and in a warm spirit. I look forward to giving something back, in my retirement from politics, to the place that helped me to move forward.

Stuart McMillan (West of Scotland) (SNP)

I am sure that the minister will agree that enterprise agencies and the whole of the public sector play an important part in bringing business and success to Inverclyde. Does he also agree that, with higher fuel costs on the way, having higher fuel prices in neighbouring areas and lower ones in Inverclyde will benefit the area and its economy?

Jim Mather

I very much agree with that. Coming together on that has been the hallmark of what I have been trying to do, in my small way, in politics. We are endeavouring to come to the right conclusions and press the right buttons when it comes to important decisions about lowering fuel costs to help families and make the community as competitive as it can be.


Scottish Budget (Financial Recovery)

Cathie Craigie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab)



3. I apologise to the Presiding Officer and to the cabinet secretary for not being in the chamber for the start of questions.

To ask the Scottish Executive how much was included in the Scottish budget to aid financial recovery. (S3O-13128)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government has set out a budget for 2011-12 that prioritises support for Scotland’s economy. It includes substantial support for Scottish business, including through our package of business reliefs, which is worth £2.4 billion over five years; support for employment, at a time when there are significant pressures on the labour market, including by encouraging small businesses to recruit, and, in the public sector, by maintaining funding for the NHS and protecting local authorities from the worst of the cuts; the provision of a record 25,000 modern apprenticeships in 2011-12; and continued investment in Scotland’s infrastructure, such as through the £2.5 billion investment programme that will be achieved through the non-profit-distributing model, which will help economic recovery.

Cathie Craigie

Does the cabinet secretary agree that Scotland’s college sector has a key role to play in ensuring that our skills base is maintained during the financial downturn? The Government has said that it will provide an additional £15 million to the sector but, to date, the colleges have no idea how that will be allocated. Is he aware that student teaching hours are being cut to maintain student numbers? Does he agree that that is not good enough and that it downplays the important part that our colleges play in educating and training people across Scotland? Will he acknowledge the excellent work that Cumbernauld College is undertaking at its Cumbernauld and Kirkintilloch campuses? Will he assure me that our colleges will be supported to ensure that we have a trained and educated workforce for the future?

John Swinney

I am delighted to place on record the Government’s appreciation for the work that is undertaken at Cumbernauld College, which I am certain will support many people of all ages in Cumbernauld and Kilsyth and the wider North Lanarkshire area.

As regards the role of colleges and its relationship with the budget, my original budget proposals included maintaining the number of student places in the college sector, which was negotiated between the Government and the college sector. The final budget increased the provision that was available, following dialogue and negotiation with the Liberal Democrats, who attached priority to increasing the number of college places and college bursaries. I was very happy to agree that with the Liberal Democrats.

However, after all the work that we put into the budget, I was rather surprised that the Liberal Democrats’ measures to enhance it were voted against by Ms Craigie and her colleagues. I am at a loss to understand how, when there is an apparent interest in economic recovery and an ability to reach agreement across the political spectrum, Ms Craigie could not support the budget. For Ms Craigie to come to Parliament and ask me questions about those points when she voted against all those pieces of good news in the budget leaves me even more bewildered by the position of the Labour Party.


Flood Alleviation Schemes (Moray)

Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con)



4. To ask the Scottish Executive what progress has been made regarding discussions between the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities regarding funding of the Elgin and Forres (River Findhorn and Pilmuir) flood alleviation schemes. (S3O-13117)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government and COSLA have agreed to discuss the issues around future capital support for flooding. The fact that budgets for the current year have already been agreed with COSLA means that any changes would not take effect until 2012-13.

Mary Scanlon

I, too, apologise for being slightly late today.

After the shortfall of funding for the Elgin scheme, Moray Council will be paying back prudential borrowing for the next 40 years. The scheme for the River Findhorn and Pilmuir in Forres seems to have fallen off the radar. The Government decision on the scheme was expected three months ago, but the council is still waiting for any comment or clarity, not only on the scheme but on funding. Will the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth give an assurance that that important scheme for Forres will receive the funding that it needs and that a decision will be announced before dissolution of the Parliament?

John Swinney

This is an important issue. I will put a number of points on the record to deal with Mary Scanlon’s question. The first relates to the Elgin flood scheme. The Government has given an assurance to Moray Council that has enabled the council to embark on work on the scheme. I hope that Mary Scanlon will acknowledge that the assurances that, in my opinion, were always there have been acknowledged by Moray Council and that work on the scheme has started.

The Forres Pilmuir scheme is in a different category. The Government’s funding arrangements made clear in 2007 that only recognised schemes at that stage were included in the funding mechanism. Moray Council knew that in 2007; if it did not, it was not paying adequate attention to the discussions that took place. I have given a commitment to Moray Council that, for future funding arrangements, we will examine with COSLA how we can take forward effective mechanisms to support the development of flood prevention schemes. I am embarking on those discussions with COSLA and I will keep Parliament advised of their development.


Co-operative Enterprises



5. To ask the Scottish Government what support it provides to the development of co-operative enterprises. (S3O-13156)

The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather)

The development of co-operative enterprises is an operational matter for Co-operative Development Scotland, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Scottish Enterprise. CDS has a specific role to promote and support all forms of new and existing co-operatives with growth potential. Working closely with business gateway, it provides specialist advice and support, promotes the co-operative model and helps to develop markets for co-operative and co-owned businesses.

Willie Coffey

There is now significant international evidence that worker co-operatives and employee-owned businesses are more productive than conventionally owned companies. Much of that evidence has been brought together by David Erdal in his book “Beyond the Corporation: Humanity Working”, which will be launched this evening at the National Library of Scotland. Given that increased productivity is the key to growing Scotland’s economy, has the minister any plans to encourage the availability of financing for those who are pursuing employee ownership or worker co-operatives, beyond that which the Baxi Partnership already provides?

Jim Mather

I know David Erdal well. He is the man who sold his company, Tullis Russell, to its employees. The company has shown real resilience since, which supports the international evidence on the productivity of co-operatives and employee-owned businesses, and the good work of the Baxi Partnership.

We have support through grant programmes and regional selective assistance. There is also potential for the Scottish loan fund to support businesses, if they are growth oriented and are exporting. In addition, in this financial year, CDS has supported the creation of 29 new co-operatives and one conversion to employee ownership.

I am aware that David Erdal is launching a new book tonight. I intend to be at the event and to ensure that I buy a copy.


Planning Application (Milngavie)

Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab)



6. To ask the Scottish Executive what the estimated cost is to the inquiry reporters unit of the appeal by Tesco against the decision by East Dunbartonshire Council to turn down the planning application for an enlarged store in Woodburn Way, Milngavie, and when a decision on the matter is expected. (S3O-13146)

The Minister for Transport and Infrastructure (Keith Brown)

The directorate for planning and environmental appeals anticipates that the total cost to Scottish ministers of dealing with the planning appeal by Tesco Stores Ltd in Milngavie will be around £16,000. That includes the cost of hiring venues for a pre-examination meeting and for inquiry and hearing sessions, advertising the inquiry sessions in the local press, informing all parties of arrangements for the meetings, staff time, and travel and subsistence costs for the reporter. At this stage, it is anticipated that the reporter will issue his decision in March 2011.

Des McNulty

I was in contact with the minister’s predecessor on this particular application, and I confirm for the record that it was a ministerial decision to pass the appeal to the reporter. There was a possibility of not so doing, but the decision to do so was made in the minister’s name.

In that context, I invite the minister to ponder on this issue. If a community feels that a planning application is completely unacceptable and expresses that view clearly, and a council agrees with what local people feel and makes a decision that is in accordance with their feelings, on what basis do ministers and reporters have the right potentially to set aside the decision—I am not prejudging the decision that the reporter might make in this case—and ignore the strongly expressed views of local people?

Keith Brown

The basis that Des McNulty asks about is the same basis that applied when he was a planning minister. It is a democratic basis that has been established for many years and accepted by all the parties, whereby decisions go to inquiry reporters. In some of the local press coverage of this issue, Des McNulty suggests that the decision should have been taken immediately by ministers rather than going to an inquiry reporter. I checked on that today and can state that that has never been done, and there are good reasons why it should not be done.

The process works in the way that has been indicated. There are specific circumstances in which an appeal can be recalled by ministers, but that does not even come close to applying in this case. We have followed the same process as was followed in previous situations. That is the right way to do it. If Des McNulty is saying that he would radically change the planning system to accommodate this particular case, he should bring that forward. I am, of course, a bit perplexed that he has portrayed himself as a local champion against Tesco in the local press at the same time as he voted against the large retailer levy. He can explain that to his constituents. However, there is no way in which we intend to change the planning system to take the kind of decisions that he suggests we should take just now.

Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD)

This question raises the issue of cost, and no doubt the minister will reply to me as he did in the last part of his reply to Mr McNulty.

The United Kingdom Government increased the maximum fee that can be charged to applicants for planning applications in England and Wales, but the Scottish Government chose not to do that. In England and Wales, the maximum fee is £250,000 for large developments, but in Scotland it is £15,000. In many cases, the fee would offset the costs, so why has the Scottish Government chosen not to increase the fee for companies with the broadest shoulders?

Keith Brown

I am stunned that that kind of argument can be made by somebody who opposed the large retailer levy. The large planning applications to which the member refers would not necessarily apply in this case. I accept that a substantially lower fee is paid in Scotland. I have made that point before to Mr Purvis. However, rather than £15,000, I think that the figure is around £18,000. As Mr Purvis said, though, it can be substantially more than that in England and Wales, up to a maximum of £250,000. All I will say is that that just shows the business-friendly policies of this Government, which ensure that we can allow planning applications to go forward.

Gil Paterson (West of Scotland) (SNP)

Will the minister comment on the fact that Des McNulty claims locally in Milngavie that he wants to protect town centres and small businesses from the power of Tesco, but when offered just that he votes against it in the Parliament in Edinburgh?

Order. That has nothing to do with the substantive question.

I have a similar question for the minister about the cost of appeals, with regard to the incinerator in Coatbridge.

I am sorry, but that has nothing to do with the substantive question either.


Oil Price



7. To ask the Scottish Government whether it is concerned at the price of oil. (S3O-13176)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government is concerned about the impact of rising oil prices and the flow-through to fuel prices, and the effect that that is having on households and businesses across Scotland.

Petrol and diesel prices are now at record highs, and we have urged the United Kingdom Government to take urgent action. First, we urged it to scrap the increase in fuel duty that is scheduled for April. Secondly, we asked it to follow through on its commitment to introduce a fuel duty regulator, which would mitigate the pressure of rising oil prices by using some of the additional revenue that the Government will receive from the North Sea to reduce fuel duty. Finally, we encouraged the UK Government to introduce a fuel duty derogation to support rural and island communities, which pay some of the highest fuel prices in Europe.

Dave Thompson

The cabinet secretary will be aware that many consumers, especially in the Highlands and Islands, are off the gas grid and must rely on oil and liquefied petroleum gas to heat their homes. Prices for those fuels were already high, but they rose dramatically during the recent cold spell. Will the minister tell us what is being done and what can be done to assist users of oil and LPG with the high cost of those fuels?

John Swinney

In the short term, there are a number of challenges in the area, because individuals are facing higher bills for refilling their oil supplies than they faced before the spell of winter weather and the substantial rise in oil prices.

In essence, I characterise the Government’s interventions as being to support people to change their approach to fuel efficiency, by taking energy efficiency advice that the Government makes available or by converting to more sustainable means of fuel generation, in relation to which different forms of Government support are available to assist in the process.


Economic Growth (North Ayrshire)



8. To ask the Scottish Government what steps it is taking to aid job creation and training and encourage economic growth in North Ayrshire. (S3O-13161)

The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather)

The Scottish Government is committed to supporting North Ayrshire Council’s implementation of its economic development and regeneration strategy. A joint working party will be established in the near future, to address a range of physical regeneration, economic and social issues, which were highlighted at a recent meeting with North Ayrshire community planning partners.

Kenneth Gibson

I was pleased to see the minister and Mr Neil at the meeting.

Does the minister agree that manufacturing remains a key component of the North Ayrshire economy and that the 37 per cent decline in United Kingdom manufacturing employment under the previous Labour Government hit the area particularly hard? What will the Scottish Government do, with the limited powers that are available to it, to help manufacturing in North Ayrshire?

Jim Mather

Manufacturing is vital to the whole of the Scottish economy and its importance was highlighted in “The Scottish Economic Recovery Plan: Update February 2011”, which was published last week. The manufacturing sector is helping to lead Scotland’s economy out of recession. The most recent gross domestic product data show that the Scottish manufacturing sector grew by 0.7 per cent in the third quarter of 2010.

The sector is poised to stabilise in the current challenging situation. That stability is being underpinned by the work that we are doing through Scottish Development International, Skills Development Scotland and the Scottish manufacturing advisory service, which helped 111 companies during the past year and has undertaken 287 manufacturing reviews since April 2010. We hope that such work, combined with innovation for the industry of the future, support for jobs in our communities, the strengthening of education and skills and help for companies to internationalise, through SDI and the smart exporter programme, is taking the sector to a new level.


Economic Activity



9. To ask the Scottish Government what steps it is taking to increase economic activity. (S3O-13160)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government brought forward a budget for 2011-12 that prioritises support for economic recovery and sustainable economic growth, in the face of the reductions in the public expenditure that is available to us. In partnership with other devolved Administrations, we continue to make representations to the United Kingdom Government and to make the case for sustained investment in the Scottish economy. The budget contains a range of interventions, a number of which I have set out to the Parliament today.

Joe FitzPatrick

I am sure that members of all parties will acknowledge the Government’s hard work in the face of the largest-ever cut to the Scottish block grant.

Scottish Government funding to kick start the Victoria and Albert museum project in Dundee has resulted in new confidence in our city. In recent weeks, Outplay Entertainment has created new jobs in the computer games sector in Dundee, and there is the prospect of hundreds more jobs at Michelin Tyre and with Gamesa, in offshore wind turbine manufacture.

Announcements on those jobs materialised after the Scottish Government and its partners provided substantial support. I know that the cabinet secretary has taken a personal interest in many issues. I acknowledge that challenges remain, but does the cabinet secretary share my enthusiasm for and confidence in Dundee’s renaissance?

John Swinney

I certainly do. I represent a neighbouring constituency and I have watched the strengthening of Dundee’s economy over a number of years. The projects to which Mr FitzPatrick referred, on the V and A at Dundee and at Gamesa and the Michelin Tyre plant, are encouraging interventions and there are a number of developments in the manufacturing sector, which I think helps to rebalance elements of the Scottish economy.

Today I visited BlackRock in Edinburgh—I have met the company before and Mr Mather has met its partners in the United States—to welcome the company’s announcement of expansion of employment in the financial services sector. That is a welcome boost, which adds to the 50,000 new jobs that have been created in Scotland during the past seven months.


School Buildings (Local Authority Funding)

John Scott (Ayr) (Con)



10. To ask the Scottish Executive what discussions the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth has been involved in regarding a further round of funding for local authorities to help refurbish or rebuild school buildings. (S3O-13115)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

In June 2009, the Scottish Government announced £800 million of funding towards a £1.25 billion school building programme, which will be funded by a mixture of capital and revenue finance. Decisions regarding the allocation of funding for the Scotland’s schools for the future programme are a matter for the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning.

John Scott

As the cabinet secretary knows—not least because his colleague, the education secretary, who is a former pupil of the school, will have told him—ambitious plans are being developed to refurbish and extend Marr college in Troon. Those plans have widespread support in the town. Will the cabinet secretary assure me that, when he determines future funding allocations to councils, he will consider favourably those proposals by South Ayrshire Council, which will help to preserve one of Troon’s most iconic buildings and to deliver the best possible educational facilities for local pupils and teachers?

John Swinney

The support that is available for school refurbishment and building programmes is, in part, in the school building programme to which I referred in my original answer to Mr Scott, but it is also in the general capital finance that is made available to local authorities.

One of the key elements of the financial settlement that I put in place for local authorities this year was to maintain their proportion of the—I must acknowledge it—reduced capital budget that is available to the Scottish Government at the current level, which, if my memory serves me right, is about 27 per cent.

The school building programme to which I referred in my earlier answer is additional to that 27 per cent that we are investing in local authority stock. Any decisions on school building programmes will be taken in the context of those resources.

Andy Kerr (East Kilbride) (Lab)

Schools are a vital part of our infrastructure programme. The Scottish National Party Government emptied that programme of nearly £1 billion, largely due to its view on private finance. I welcome the complete reversal of the Government’s position on the use of private finance, as outlined in its budget, in which it adopts public-private partnerships back into the mainstream of public financing.

The schools that are being completed are largely those that were set in train by the previous Labour Administration. The SNP has added no substantial investment to that programme. Is it not the case that, without the policy reversal on, and acceptance of, public-private partnerships, our builders, construction workers, lawyers, architects and other professionals would be without further work to do as a result of the Government’s actions?

John Swinney

It is important that we marshal all the facts and the sequence of events. Mr Kerr probably stood in my place in 2007 and said to Parliament that, if the SNP came to office, it would cancel all the school building projects that were in train. Now, he comes to the chamber and criticises the Government for not doing that but doing what it said it would do: sustain the programme that was in place. In fact, since we came to office, we have delivered more on the school building programme than Mr Kerr and his colleagues were committed to.

The school building programme that was provided for in the Government’s budget substantially enhances the capital programme, which has come under threat from the decisions of the United Kingdom Government. However, as I have said before in the Parliament, the current United Kingdom Government is only implementing a capital programme that was left to it by the Labour Party when it was in government.

The Labour Party has no right to criticise the Liberals and the Conservatives for the scale of capital reductions in the United Kingdom because the Labour Government advanced those proposals before it was drummed out of office in 2010.


Business Rates (Ballater)



11. To ask the Scottish Executive whether it will accept the invitation from the Ballater Business Association sent on 17 February 2011 to visit the village to discuss business rate rises. (S3O-13190)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

We are always happy to listen to the views of the business community. That is why the Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism visited Ballater to meet local businesses on 27 September. The First Minister will consider the request for a further meeting from the Ballater Business Association and respond shortly.

Mike Rumbles

I thank the cabinet secretary for that reply, but Jim Mather wrote to the Ballater Business Association yesterday. Its reply of today states:

“Thank you for your letter of yesterday. Unfortunately there is nothing new in your communication and we seem not to have moved forward since your visit to Ballater in September. I sincerely hope that your letter was not meant to be the reply to our letter to the First Minister ... because this would be unacceptable to us. All of our questions and concerns put to the First Minister still stand ... we still await both his reply and the date of his visit.”

Will the Scottish Executive please ask the First Minister to respond to the Ballater Business Association? It has had massive rate rises—60 per cent increases in rateable values. Come to Ballater and address its concerns.

John Swinney

As I said in my original answer to Mr Rumbles, the First Minister will consider the request and respond shortly to the Ballater Business Association.

As Mr Rumbles knows, the valuation of businesses is undertaken through a process that is independent of Government. Individual companies are of course entitled to appeal those decisions.

In Mr Mather’s work around Ballater, he asked for an analysis to be undertaken of the 225 business properties in Ballater, which showed that nine out of 10 of the businesses were potentially eligible for the small business bonus at the exact same levels pre and post-2010 revaluation. Although individual businesses might have seen increases in their business rates, that is a product of the business rates system and the independent valuation. It is encouraging to see that such a large proportion of businesses are still eligible for the support that this Government has put in place to reduce the business rates of small companies.


Scottish Investment Bank



12. To ask the Scottish Executive whether it can advise of any recent developments regarding the Scottish Investment Bank. (S3O-13149)

The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather)

Demand for the Scottish Investment Bank equity products remains high with the likely level of investment in 2010-11 being similar to the previous year’s high level. Last month, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth was pleased to announce that the Scottish loan fund was open for business with the appointment of Maven Capital Partners as the fund managers. A further £5 million has been added to the fund—an extra £2 million in European regional development funding, matched with a £3 million commitment from Highlands and Islands Enterprise—bringing the total public sector commitment to £55 million.

John Park

I have had some engagement with smaller manufacturing-type companies in the region that I represent, which have raised concerns with me that, because of their tight margins, some of the costs associated with the Scottish loan fund might be prohibitive and affect their ability to engage with it. Are the Scottish Government and the minister aware of that potential issue? Have they made an assessment of the cost with the loan fund managers? Obviously, I respect the commercial nature of the information that the businesses have given me, but would the minister be willing to engage with some of those businesses if I was able to share that information with him?

Jim Mather

Given the nature of the question and the way that Mr Park phrased it, I would very much prefer to sit down with him and discuss the particulars of those businesses, so that I understand them more clearly. We are in very challenging times. People will know how expensive it is to borrow from the private sector and from banks at this time. We are determined to do everything we can to work with companies, through the vehicle of the Scottish loan fund and using other measures, to help them navigate their way through this time. There is a dialogue there that we could and should have.


Edinburgh Tram Project



13. To ask the Scottish Executive whether Transport Scotland will take a more active role in the delivery of the Edinburgh tram project. (S3O-13131)

The Minister for Transport and Infrastructure (Keith Brown)

With formal mediation due to start next week, this is not the right time to be considering substantial changes to the governance of the project. However, I want to ensure that every opportunity is taken to resolve the long-running dispute between TIE Ltd and the contractor so that trams can be delivered in Edinburgh as soon as possible, and I have agreed that Transport Scotland will take part in the mediation process.

George Foulkes

I commend the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth for intervening to enable the mediation process to take place. We hope that it will reach a successful conclusion.

The Auditor General for Scotland has recommended that Transport Scotland take a more active role in the delivery of the tram project—not the mediation, but the delivery. Given that the Scottish Executive is the principal funder of the project, will it give sympathetic consideration to the Auditor General’s recommendation?

Keith Brown

Lord Foulkes will have heard the statements on the subject that were made by the cabinet secretary this morning. The Scottish Government has not been merely an observer. We receive regular updates from the City of Edinburgh Council and Transport Scotland maintains regular communication. As the cabinet secretary made clear, he has had a number of meetings with the City of Edinburgh Council on the matter.

Mediation is due to start very soon, and now is not the right time to discuss material and substantial changes to the governance of the project. Nevertheless, I repeat that we want to ensure that every opportunity is taken to resolve the long-running dispute. For that reason, we have agreed to be involved in the mediation process, which should be allowed to take its course.


Public Sector Absenteeism



14. To ask the Scottish Executive what steps it is taking to reduce the level of absenteeism in the public sector. (S3O-13119)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government is committed to driving down absenteeism across the public sector, working with public sector partners and employee representatives. All cost-effective interventions to improve both employee wellbeing and public sector efficiency are being considered.

David McLetchie

The cabinet secretary will be aware, from our discussions at the time of the budget, that if we were able to achieve a two-day reduction per employee in the level of absenteeism in the public sector—which is far higher than in comparable occupations in the private sector—we would achieve a saving of some £138 million a year. There is a significant prize at stake. Beyond the generalities, what specific programmes are being put in place to address the problem in the departments for which the cabinet secretary has direct responsibility?

John Swinney

Before Mr McLetchie gets carried away with the savings that he has identified, I point out that they would materialise only if we also reduced commensurately the level of public sector employment. In the interests of completeness, it is important that we all understand that.

Mr McLetchie asked about the Scottish Government. The level of absenteeism in the Scottish Government has reduced in one year by 12.3 per cent as a consequence of the initiatives that have been undertaken by the Government. We have several work streams in place that monitor the position of individual work areas and individuals. Where support is required to encourage people to return to work, that is offered and given. It is in all our interests to have a healthy workforce that is able to sustain low levels of absenteeism, and that remains the objective of the Government.

David Whitton (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab)

One notable absentee from the public sector after the election will be Mr Mather, the Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism. I take the opportunity to pay tribute to him during what I think will be his last question time. Although we have had our differences across the floor of the chamber, he has always been a congenial minister. Indeed, he has visited my constituency on a couple of occasions. I am sure that he would agree that one way in which the Government could reduce absenteeism in the public sector would be by adopting Labour’s living wage campaign, which, in Glasgow, has led to a reduction in the number of days for which employees have been absent from work.

John Swinney

I acknowledge the generous tribute that David Whitton has paid to Jim Mather. Mr Mather is not only a congenial colleague; he is also an excellent person to work with. It has been an unreserved privilege for me to have him at my side throughout the term of the Government, and I thank Mr Mather warmly for all that he has contributed to the Government. Absenteeism and Mr Mather are not two things that I would often put together in the same sentence, as he is always there, working hard with great diligence.

The point that Mr Whitton makes about the living wage campaign is a commitment that the Government has taken forward and applied across the pay remits for which the Government has responsibility.


Railway Station Car Parking



15. To ask the Scottish Government what the outcome has been following the consultation undertaken in 2009-10 by Transport Scotland on railway station car parking. (S3O-13164)

The Minister for Transport and Infrastructure (Keith Brown)

The consultation responses indicated that further research was required to gain a fuller understanding of the factors influencing the use of park-and-ride facilities and the relative importance of each factor. Research into those factors and the relationship between car park supply and public transport demand is currently being undertaken. The research findings, along with the consultation responses, will be used to produce a national rail car parking policy early in the next session of Parliament.

Jamie Hepburn

In its submission to the consultation, North Lanarkshire Council stated that

“station parking charges would probably only be required in town centres or other areas where they might be used by non-rail travellers”,

a position with which I agree. Is the minister aware that North Lanarkshire Council now plans to introduce car parking charges at both Croy and Greenfaulds railway stations, which in no way could be described as town centre railway stations? Does he agree that that would be counterproductive to encouraging people to get out of their cars and on to the train?

Keith Brown

It is fair to point out that decisions of that nature rest with North Lanarkshire Council, which has ownership of the park-and-ride facility at Croy, for example. However, it is our view that rail car parks should not be viewed strictly as a revenue source but as a means of facilitating access to the rail network for people who live outwith a station’s walk-in catchment area.

If the council decided to introduce charging, we would ask it to consider the implications for issues such as increasing road congestion levels. We would also ask that it consider the parking alternatives at each station. I know that the situation at Croy is particularly constrained, which could lead to inappropriate on-street parking by passengers who are seeking to avoid paying charges.

For the avoidance of doubt, I point out that the restrictions are outwith the superb new park-and-ride facility at Croy.

Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab)

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Is it in order for ministers to give misleading responses to questions? Earlier, I asked a question about Tesco’s appeal. It is quite clearly a ministerial decision to pass any appeal to the inquiry reporters unit. Ministers authorise expenditure on an inquiry and any decision that is reached is on the authority of the minister. That is quite explicit in the legislation. I do not—

I must stop the member there. The member knows full well that the Presiding Officer has already ruled that it is not up to the chair to comment on the veracity or accuracy of ministers’ responses to questions.