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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Thursday, November 28, 2013


Contents


General Question Time


Engagements (Aberdeen)

Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab)



1. To ask the Scottish Government when it will provide a substantive response to written question S4W-16703 regarding the First Minister’s engagements in Aberdeen in June 2013, which received a holding answer from the Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs on 10 September. (S4O-02642)

The parliamentary question was answered on 21 November 2013, and the delay was due to an administrative error.

Lewis Macdonald

I am grateful to the cabinet secretary. There is nothing like an oral question to concentrate the mind. I and my MSP colleagues and the MP for Aberdeen South would have been delighted to welcome the Government’s contribution to the Pound for Piper Memorial Trust’s fund at the time, if the First Minister had seen fit to tell us about it then or, indeed, in any of the weeks after the Aberdeen Donside by-election and before the anniversary of the Piper Alpha disaster. Can the cabinet secretary confirm whether there has been a breach of the “Scottish Ministerial Code 2011” in this instance? If so, will an apology be issued by her or by any other responsible minister?

Fiona Hyslop

There has been no breach. Paragraph 9.20 of the code states:

“Private offices should where possible issue constituency letters”.

On the memorial garden in memory of those who died in the Piper Alpha disaster, the date of the anniversary and the location are fixed. In terms of funding, I think that people expect this Parliament to be respectful in remembering and honouring those who died in the Piper Alpha disaster and that the contribution on behalf of the people of Scotland to the memorial garden was very appropriate. I regret that Lewis Macdonald is treating it in this way.


Homelessness



2. To ask the Scottish Government what progress it is making in tackling homelessness. (S4O-02643)

The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess)

Homelessness continues to fall in Scotland, as is shown by figures published earlier this month. In the first quarter of 2013 we saw an 11 per cent fall in applications to local authorities from the previous year’s figure and, crucially, falls in the number of households with children in temporary accommodation. That continues the positive trend of falls in homelessness in Scotland in recent years. Progress has been driven by the achievement of our internationally acclaimed 2012 homelessness target and our focus on prevention, working with local authorities and others, and supported by our investment in new affordable housing.

Bruce Crawford

I did not sit beside the minister to ensure that I got the answer that I wanted.

According to the latest summary from Stirling Council’s housing advisory group, the number of applicants to the Stirling Council homelessness list has continued to fall. That is very encouraging news, but obviously there is still much to do. Does the minister hope, as I do, that that trend will continue? What further action can the Scottish Government and Stirling Council take in working together to help to reduce homelessness rates further?

Margaret Burgess

I agree that it is good news that we see homelessness figures continuing to fall. They have fallen in Stirling by 14 per cent, which is higher than the national fall of 11 per cent. The progress is the result of the adoption of the housing options approach to preventing homelessness by local authorities and their partners, rather than a change in the underlying drivers of homelessness.

I attended a national homelessness event this morning that looked at how we can continue to work together on the issue and further develop the regional hubs—Stirling Council is a member of one—to prevent further homelessness. We have made significant progress in tackling homelessness, but independence would allow us to ensure that that would continue because we would have more control over finances and over threats from areas that are currently controlled by the United Kingdom Government, as typified by welfare reform.

What will be done to assist rough sleepers over the winter? What additional assistance will be given to charities that are already carrying out tremendous work with rough sleepers?

Margaret Burgess

The Scottish Government continues to work with charities that support rough sleepers, whose numbers in Scotland are reducing. We will continue to work with charities to reduce their numbers and the number of homeless people. We have set up a number of funds for welfare reform mitigation and we are encouraging charities to ensure that anyone who is sleeping rough has the access to those funds that they should have. We continue to support them through our voluntary housing action fund, which funds a number of charitable organisations.


Vocational Education and Training (North Ayrshire)



3. To ask the Scottish Government how it plans to boost vocational education and training in North Ayrshire. (S4O-02644)

The Minister for Youth Employment (Angela Constance)

Consistent with the aims of our reforms, the recently merged Ayrshire College is expanding vocational education opportunities across North Ayrshire. The new college is a considerable boost for North Ayrshire and it will continue to adjust its curriculum to reflect the needs of local employers. Moreover, in the academic years 2012-13 and 2013-14, Ayrshire College has received additional funding of over £3.26 million from the Scottish Further and Higher Education Funding Council to deliver additional places for young people, women and adults returning to education.

Kenneth Gibson

In the year to September, youth unemployment in North Ayrshire fell from 560 to 350, which represents a fall of 37.5 per cent and is the fastest decline in Scotland. Does the minister agree that enhanced vocational education and training will reduce that number still further and will also give older unemployed people the necessary skills to return to work?

Angela Constance

Yes, I do agree. I listened to the figures that Mr Gibson quoted, and I think that I am correct in saying that he is talking about the claimant count figures for 16 to 19-year-olds, which have fallen right across Scotland. Given the particular challenges of North Ayrshire, it is encouraging to hear about that improvement.

Kenneth Gibson might also be interested to know that the claimant count, although it is not a full estimate of youth unemployment, has also fallen across the 16 to 24-year-old cohort, from 11 per cent to 8.1 per cent. He is absolutely right about the importance of vocational education and training. The targeting of specific skills needs in order to meet the needs of local employers will, indeed, boost the employability of learners of all ages, and support growth.


Department for International Development (East Kilbride)



4. To ask the Scottish Government what impact independence would have on the Department for International Development’s office in East Kilbride. (S4O-02645)

The Minister for External Affairs and International Development (Humza Yousaf)

In “Scotland’s Future: Your Guide to an Independent Scotland”, on page 365 and earlier in the document on page 31, we make it clear that international development is one of the areas where the Scottish and Westminster Governments have a mutual interest in working closely together. Our having in Scotland people with the skills to deliver Government priorities is an asset. The Scottish Government will work with the Westminster Government to preserve continuity of employment for all civil servants in Scotland, either by transfer to the Scottish Government or by continued employment with the Westminster Government where their skills will still be required by that Government. That will provide, on independence, for continuity of services and jobs, including those in DFID in East Kilbride, without either Government having to recreate significant infrastructure.

In stark contrast with the Scottish Government, which has a strong record of valuing public service, the Westminster Government is not operating a policy of no compulsory redundancies in the public sector. Recent examinations of DFID’s accounts for 2011-12 shows that the UK Government plans to decrease the number of staff in East Kilbride from 2014 onwards.

Margaret McCulloch

I thank the minister for that in-depth answer. We were told that the white paper would answer all our questions, but it does not make things any clearer for staff at DFID—a department that employs more than 500 people in East Kilbride. The Scottish Government cannot seem to decide whether to assure civil servants in East Kilbride that they will seamlessly transfer to the Scottish civil service or to tell them that they will stick with a UK civil service that will run its overseas aid programme out of a foreign country.

Will the minister answer the questions that the white paper did not answer and confirm to DFID staff in East Kilbride what will happen to Abercrombie house in the event of independence? What will happen to the absolutely vital job base there, and why should those workers gamble their future on independence?

Humza Yousaf

Actually, I did answer that question. I told Margaret McCulloch that we would, of course, preserve continuity of employment with the Westminster Government, through negotiation. Page 49 of the white paper specifically mentions that one of the delivery functions of the international relations and defence department of an independent Scotland would be in East Kilbride.

Maybe Margaret McCulloch should also talk to Michael McCann, the Labour member of Parliament and her colleague, who said about DFID jobs:

“I have ... made it clear that compulsory redundancies should be avoided at all costs and have asked the Minister to keep me updated with any developments. It seems to me that the Government”—

that is, the UK Government—

“isn’t doing all it can to protect British jobs.”

In addition, I encourage Margaret McCulloch to look in more detail at the international development section in “Scotland’s Future”. It has been welcomed by NIDOS—the network of international development organisations in Scotland—in particular because of its commitment to spend 0.7 per cent of gross national income on international development, and its commitment to “policy coherence for development”.

That said, an independent Scotland would take its commitment to international development very seriously. The priorities, skills and expertise of the people in DFID will be well used in an independent Scotland’s international development function. We would not, for example, have a policy through which we would do our development work while also undermining it by selling arms to people like Robert Mugabe, General Suharto, Hosni Mubarak and Saddam Hussein.

Finally, I will not take lectures from anybody in the Labour Party, which in 13 years of Government at a time of boom could not find it in itself to commit once to spending 0.7 per cent, which is our international obligation. It has taken a Conservative Government—a Tory Government that is hell-bent on austerity—to put the Labour Party to shame in that regard.

We have said and continue to say that DFID staff will be absolutely protected; we will preserve their continuity of employment. I have twice asked to meet the relevant DFID minister to discuss those issues. I hope that on the third time of asking she will be able to do that.

If I am going to make progress through the questions, we must have the questions a bit shorter and the answers considerably shorter.


Miscarriage Support



5. To ask the Scottish Government what support it provides to people who have experienced miscarriage. (S4O-02646)

The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)

Health professionals provide tailored care and support to people who have experienced miscarriage, which may include further investigation or counselling, as appropriate. Additionally, a patient may be referred to an appropriate voluntary organisation. During 2013 the Scottish Government has provided funding to several organisations that work in the field.

Anne McTaggart

I thank the minister for that reply. Organisations such as Scottish Care and Information on Miscarriage have been supporting mothers in my region—Glasgow—since 1992 and have worked to identify and tackle the causes of miscarriage and stillbirth through expert research. Does the Scottish Government have any plans to review their level of funding or to assist them and similar charities in acquiring alternative funding streams?

Michael Matheson

I met SCIM last week to discuss such issues. We provide it with a grant of more than £7,000 a year for the work that it undertakes in the greater Glasgow and Clyde area. We also provide funding to a range of other organisations that work in the field, to help them to support families who experience miscarriage.

I have no doubt that SCIM will choose to apply to the section 16(b) funding stream, which will open before the end of this year. Its application will be considered alongside other applications from organisations that carry out similar work.


Road Safety (A937 Montrose to Laurencekirk)



6. To ask the Scottish Government what action it will take to improve safety on the A937 between Montrose and Laurencekirk. (S4O-02647)

The Minister for Transport and Veterans (Keith Brown)

The A937 is a local road, so responsibility for it rests with Angus Council and Aberdeenshire Council.

For our part, the Government has provided £100,000 for the access to Laurencekirk study, which is being commissioned by Nestrans in partnership with Aberdeenshire Council and Transport Scotland. The work aims to identify a preferred option at Laurencekirk on the A90.

Alex Johnstone

The minister will be fully aware that recent analyses and figures have indicated that the A937 is, as it has been described,

“the most dangerous ... road in Scotland”

and one of the most dangerous roads in Europe. The pinch point on that road is its crossroads with the A90, which is most definitely a trunk route.

Given recent correspondence, will the minister take this opportunity to retask his civil servants to begin the process of finding ways of improving that junction, rather than finding excuses for not doing it?

Keith Brown

Alex Johnstone should be more careful about how he describes the road. The road that was described as being

“the most dangerous ... in Scotland”

is actually the local road, not the trunk road. The trunk road is a low and medium-risk road. The high-risk road is the local road.

Obviously, we want to work with local authorities and others to improve road safety wherever we can. In relation to the trunk road—which is not the road that is mentioned in Alex Johnstone’s original question—we have introduced measures in 2007 and 2008. Since that time, accident stats have reduced and we have conducted a cost-refinement exercise on the junction. As I mentioned, we are taking forward a design proposal with the north-east of Scotland transport partnership to see what the best possible solution for the A90 and access to Laurencekirk could be.



Although that suggests to me that the Government is being very proactive on the matter, we certainly acknowledge local concerns. I have met the campaigners—I talked to one just last week—and we will continue to listen to them and to improve the road where we can.

Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP)

I have recently written to Angus Council and Aberdeenshire Council, which are responsible for the section of road, to ask them what they are doing to improve safety on what we know is an extremely dangerous stretch. Is the Government able to do anything to help in that process, given that the road in question adjoins a trunk road? The best brains need to be applied not only to the problem of the Laurencekirk junction, which I know the minister is working on, but to the stretch down to Hillside.

Keith Brown

It is worth my while saying that the Scottish Government has, as a roads authority, no authority to suggest or make improvements to a road for which another roads authority is responsible. However, Nigel Don is quite right to say that we work closely with local authorities, not least on roads maintenance. If the local authorities or the regional transport partnership make such a request we will be more than happy to work with them on the issue.


Carers’ Rights Day



7. To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to promote carers’ rights day. (S4O-02648)

The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)

On carers’ rights day and all year round, the Scottish Government supports unpaid carers and young carers by providing valuable care and support to their families, friends and neighbours. With partners, we are developing a carers’ rights charter that will set out and consolidate existing rights and which will be widely available next year. Moreover, subject to the outcome of consultation and parliamentary approval, the Scottish Government intends to introduce new legislation to support carers and young carers.

Fiona McLeod

Although the First Minister’s announcement of a carers’ rights bill at the carers parliament in October was very welcome, can the minister advise on the powers that can be used now to make councils such as East Dunbartonshire Council follow their duty to give carers their assessments?

Michael Matheson

The legislation is clear that where carers request an assessment the local authority must provide it. Local authorities must also notify carers of their entitlement to make such a request. I note that some councils support carers without any assessment, but it is important that councils undertake a good-quality assessment of all carers who request it.

As I have pointed out, we will also consult on carers legislation provisions on, for example, identification of carers, carers assessments and information, advice and support for carers with the aim of having across the country a more consistent approach that supports better outcomes for carers and ensures that those who would benefit from such an assessment are able to obtain one.


Policing (Stop and Search)



8. To ask the Scottish Government how many stop and searches Police Scotland has carried out. (S4O-02649)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

The use of stop and search is an operational matter for Police Scotland. Since the organisation’s formation in April 2013, there has been approximately one stop and search per police officer per week, which amounts to 12,089 police officers carrying out 454,737 stop and searches. Stop and search is effective not only in taking knives or other weapons off the street before they are used to commit violent crimes but in recovering drugs or alcohol, which can reduce antisocial behaviour and its blight in our communities.

Kevin Stewart

Since the inception of Police Scotland, stop and searches have increased by 45 per cent in Aberdeen. Given the chief constable’s statement that there are no targets for stop and search, will the cabinet secretary give me an assurance that he will keep a close eye on the statistics in order to assure my constituents that the procedure is being used only when there is suspicion of crime or during special operations?

Kenny MacAskill

Yes. Mr Stewart makes a good point; after all, this is a matter of balance. Having discussed the stop and search issue with the chief constable, I can confirm that—as Kevin Stewart said—there are no targets for numbers of searches. Helpfully, however, there are percentage targets for positive searches. I have been reassured that stop and search is an intelligence-led tactic that is used appropriately by Police Scotland to keep people and communities safe, but the Scottish Police Authority and the Scottish Government will, of course, continue to monitor its use.

I also point out that since this Government came to office, crimes of handling offensive weapons have fallen by 60 per cent. That is in no small way down to a visible police presence, tough laws and strict enforcement by our police officers.