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Chamber and committees

European Committee, 14 Sep 1999

Meeting date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999


Contents


Further Briefing

Allan has already suggested an informal briefing. That should be our priority, but in the meantime is there anything else that members wish to have prepared?

I received a letter from Stephen Imrie—presumably as did the other members—saying that a paper on the financing of objective 2 regions was to follow. I have not received that paper.

Stephen Imrie:

The Executive informed me that it would try to get that paper to us by this meeting, but that it would require ministerial clearance because, in its opinion, it contained a number of important issues. I had not received the paper by the time of this meeting, but as soon as I do I will circulate it to all committee members.

The Convener:

Before I close the meeting, I would like to point out that there will be some problems with the timing of our meetings over the next few weeks because of some of the deadlines that we have to meet. At the moment, I am not sure what will be happening during October. Stephen, could you identify some of the potential problems for us?

Stephen Imrie:

I can advise the committee that earlier in the week I was approached by the Scottish Executive development department to discuss two consultation documents that will be sent to the committee. The first is the document that the committee has already seen—the draft special programme for the Highlands and Islands. That will become a full programme which contains all the financial and priority elements that we thought were missing from the first draft. It will come to the committee for further consultation.

The second document, which will be received on an identical time scale, is the Scottish operational programme for objective 3 expenditure under the new programme round for European structural funds. Broadly, that will cover employment, the labour market, social inclusion and equal opportunities.

I am advised by the Executive that neither of those documents will be cleared by the minister before Monday 4 October. According to European structural fund regulations, the member state must report by 1 November. That means that we have between 4 October and 1 November to ensure that members' views are heard in time to get them incorporated in the documents and over to Brussels. We do not have a committee meeting scheduled until what would be the October recess—I think that 12 October is the date.

Is it not 5 October?

Stephen Imrie:

We do not have a meeting on 5 October, because we follow a fortnightly pattern. The next meeting will be on 28 October.

The Convener:

I have discussed with Stephen the possibility of having an early meeting, but by the time the documents are cleared by the minister, members will have only one or two days in which to consider detailed and important documents. That is our dilemma. Either we go for an early meeting, which will not give us sufficient time to absorb and scrutinise the documents, or we return during the recess, which might be inconvenient. The other possibility is to meet on that Friday.

We need time to consider the documents if we are to do them justice.

When is the earliest that members could expect to receive the documents?

Stephen Imrie:

The earliest I expect to receive the documents is 4 October. The final document on the special programme would be completed on the evening of the previous Friday and given to the minister over the weekend. Assuming that the minister signed it off on Monday, we would receive the document late on Monday afternoon.

Would it be possible to schedule an extra meeting that week, perhaps on Thursday lunchtime, or at 5 pm?

The Convener:

We have to assume that the minister will sign off the documents on the Monday, so that members will have at least two to three days to consider them. If we hold a meeting on the Thursday, we are constrained by parliamentary business. I do not know what members' business or other business is scheduled—that is a matter for the Parliamentary Bureau. We might be able to hold a meeting at 5 pm, but it might need to be at 5.30 pm or even at 6 pm, depending on other business. Friday is a possibility, but we shall come up against other problems thereafter.

Would members prefer to meet at the end of that week or later?

I would prefer the end of the week. Many members of the committee live in the west—would it be possible for us to meet in Glasgow on that occasion?

The Convener:

That would require permission and is not for us to decide.

Is it agreed that I try to arrange a meeting for the end of the week? It depends on the day that the minister signs off the documents. I am not happy to hold a meeting when members have had only a couple of days to examine the documents.

The alternative is to meet on the Tuesday of the next week.

The problem is that that is Scotland's week in Europe. I hope to be in Brussels in Scotland House.

Yes, several things are already arranged for that week.

I would rule out the week after if there is to be a constraint because of the late arrival of the documents.

Will the committee allow me to take soundings from the minister about when we are likely to receive the documents, so that we can schedule a meeting at an appropriate time?

Members:

Yes.

We already have the objective 3 document. Would members like that to be circulated now?

Members:

Yes.

Thank you for attending today's meeting.

Meeting closed at 16:04.