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Chamber and committees

Education, Children and Young People Committee


Minutes: 07 May 2025

Wednesday, 07 May 2025

15th Meeting, 2025

Start time: 09:15am
End time: 10:05pm
Location: T4.40-CR2 The Fairfax Somerville Room
Published: Thursday, 08 May 2025
Also present:
  • Jenny Gilruth (Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills), Stephen Kerr, Sue Webber, Martin Whitfield

Minutes


1. Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill:

The Committee took evidence on the Bill at Stage 1 from—

Clare Reid, Director of Policy and Public Affairs, Prosper;

Professor Nigel Seaton, Fellow, Royal Society of Edinburgh;

and then from—

Martin Boyle, Chief Operating Officer, Scottish Funding Council;

Catherine Topley, Chief Executive, SAAS;

Damien Yeates, Chief Executive, Skills Development Scotland.


2. Widening Access Inquiry (In Private):

The Committee considered and agreed a draft report.


3. Education (Scotland) Bill:

The Committee considered the Bill at Stage 2 (Day 3).

The following amendments were agreed to (without division): 312, 86, 87, 319, 169, 90, 176, 38, 92, 39, 339, 342, 345, 14, 15, 16, 93, 186, 94, 108, 112. 

The following amendments were agreed to (by division)— 

88 (For 9, Against 1, Abstentions 0)

89 (For 9, Against 1, Abstentions 0)

25 (For 5, Against 5, Abstentions 0; amendment agreed to on casting vote)

22 (For 9, Against 1, Abstentions 0)

95 (For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1)

23 (For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1)

113 (For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1) 

The following amendments were disagreed to (by division)— 

172 (For 3, Against 6, Abstentions 1)

328 (For 2, Against 8, Abstentions 0)

331 (For 3, Against 5, Abstentions 2)

92A (For 5, Against 5, Abstentions 0; amendment disagreed to on casting vote)

180 (For 4, Against 6, Abstentions 0)

40 (For 2, Against 8, Abstentions 0)

351 (For 3, Against 7, Abstentions 0)

114 (For 2, Against 8, Abstentions 0) 

The following amendments were moved and, no member having objected, withdrawn: 84, 305, 157, 308, 320, 181, 341, 346. 

The following amendments were pre-empted: 322.

The following amendments were not moved: 145, 146, 79, 80, 147, 148, 81, 149, 150, 82, 151, 152, 83, 153, 154, 304, 155, 156, 306, 307, 158, 309, 310, 159, 311, 85, 160, 24, 313, 161, 162, 314, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 315, 316, 317, 318, 168, 170, 321, 323, 171, 324, 325, 326, 327, 329, 330, 91, 173, 174, 175, 177, 332, 333, 334, 335, 92B, 178, 179, 336, 11, 337, 338, 340, 182, 18, 19, 20, 183, 343, 344, 184, 347, 21, 348, 185, 349, 350, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 206, 207, 352, 109, 110, 208, 353, 354, 355, 356, 357, 111, 26, 209, 210, 358. 

The following provisions were agreed to without amendment: Sections 27, 28, 29, 32, 33, 35, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48 and 50, Schedule 3, sections 51 and 53, Schedule 4, sections 56 and 58 and the long title. 

The following provisions were agreed to as amended: Sections 30, 31, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 49, 52, 54, 55 and 57.

The Committee completed Stage 2 consideration of the Bill.

Martin Whitfield declared that he had previous employment as a teacher.

Stephen Kerr indicated an interest as being involved with Whistleblowers UK.

Ross Greer indicated an interest as a member of the PVG scheme.


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