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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013


Contents


Portfolio Question Time

Good afternoon. The first item of business is portfolio questions. So that I can get as many people in as possible, I would prefer to have short and succinct questions, and answers to match, please.


Rural Affairs and the Environment


Red Meat Levy



1. To ask the Scottish Government what recent progress has been made in discussions with the UK Government on repatriating the annual £1.4 million of red meat levy income paid by Scotland’s farmers. (S4O-02352)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

Given that this serious issue has been going on for far too long, the First Minister recently wrote to the Prime Minister to seek his support for repatriation of the levy that rightly belongs to Scotland. I inform members that the Prime Minister has responded to the letter but has declined our request, which is unfortunate. I know that that decision will disappoint the whole of the Scottish red meat industry, which is unanimous in the view that Scotland’s producers are being short-changed.

Quality Meat Scotland has cautiously accepted an invitation from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs minister of state to join a forum to determine spending priorities for the disputed levy income. However, I hope that members agree that rather than make the new and spurious argument that the lost levy somehow benefits the Scottish industry, the United Kingdom Government would do better to focus on putting right the wrong.

James Dornan

Given the UK Government’s negative response on this important issue, on which the Scottish Government has the support of Quality Meat Scotland and NFU Scotland, does the cabinet secretary share my disappointment at the Prime Minister’s unwillingness to change tack, although Scotland is so clearly losing out?

Richard Lochhead

I think that there will be a huge degree of anger throughout the livestock sector in Scotland, particularly at a time when the levy income is desperately needed to promote the Scottish brands, so that producers can have a greater return from the marketplace.

As James Dornan said, it is estimated that we are losing £1.4 million of red meat levy over the border every year. The promotional levy in relation to animals that were born and reared in Scotland is being used to promote produce from outside Scotland, because the animals were slaughtered over the border. That is ridiculous, unacceptable and indefensible. I am very disappointed by the Prime Minister’s response, as are the First Minister and the Scottish Government.

Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)

There is certainly a need for discussions on the distribution of the red meat levy. However, if we are looking for a solution, we surely need to understand how the situation has come about. The availability of abattoirs in Scotland and competitive trading in livestock are key factors. What can the Scottish Government do to make available more viable options in Scotland?

Richard Lochhead

Claire Baker made an important point. Because of the reduction in concentration and capacity of processing throughout Great Britain, more animals are going south of the border to be slaughtered. A number of moves are afoot to try to increase processing in Scotland, but as the member knows, those moves largely relate to sheep—we have very little processing capacity in Scotland for lamb. That is a long-standing issue, unfortunately.

As a result of a number of other factors, such as the closure of Vion, there are moves afoot to address the problem in relation to the pig sector.

We are working closely with the red meat sector to see whether we can increase capacity in Scotland. However, a very flawed formula is putting Scotland at an unfair disadvantage; that is what should be fixed.

Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)

I am broadly in favour of the principle behind a review of how the levy is deducted and distributed, but I think that the cabinet secretary has been tempted to go for headlines without thinking through the full consequences, which could include losing the benefit of up to £7 million that is ring-fenced for promotion and research on British meat.

The cabinet secretary mentioned the forum that the UK minister offered to set up, which will include all the meat-levy-raising bodies. Can he say why he has so robustly dismissed the forum’s benefits, given that its remit would be to look at all the issues and to determine priorities in the UK?

Richard Lochhead

I point out to Alex Fergusson that there have been reviews in the past. There was a review several years ago, and it is unfortunate that its recommendations were not acted on.

A spurious new argument came on the scene a few months ago, although there have been disputes and debates about the issue for several years. The UK Government is trying to defend the status quo for the levy arrangements by suggesting that somehow Scotland benefits from UK spend.

We want to promote the Scottish—not the British—brand and to secure the Scottish premium for red meat. That is why the current arrangements are flawed.

On the proposed new forum, I said at the time and continue to say that I would be very concerned if the forum was another fudge and simply a talking shop to soak up time and allow the current arrangements to stay in place a bit longer, to Scotland’s disadvantage.


Scotch Beef (Japan)

Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con)



2. To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had regarding calls to reopen the market for Scotch beef in Japan. (S4O-02353)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

Last November, I led Scotland’s biggest delegation of food and drink businesses to Japan and China to promote our fantastic larder to those exciting and lucrative markets. However, I was extremely disappointed to hear from the United Kingdom embassy that gaining access for Scotch beef to the Japanese market was not a priority at the time for the UK Government.

I have since written to the UK Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs to ask him to prioritise that, but hope that we will see more progress in the near future. Of course, if Scotland was an independent country, we would be able to decide our own priority markets and take the necessary actions to help our red meat sector.

Nanette Milne

The potential beef market in Japan will be significant if the import ban is lifted. Early moves to promote our world renowned Scotch beef there could significantly benefit farmers here.

The Japanese Food Safety Commission has recommended the easing of restrictions on beef imports to allow animals of 30 months and younger to be imported from this year. What further steps will the cabinet secretary take with his counterparts in Japan to try to secure that market? What preparations have been made by the beef industry to promote Scotch beef in Japan?

Richard Lochhead

When I was in Tokyo—a city of 30 million people—I spoke to a top chef who told me that he believed that the best beef in the world comes from Scotland. He wished that he could source it so that he could serve it in his restaurant in a top Tokyo hotel. There is certainly a demand for the Scottish product, which is why I have been doing what I can to make representations to the UK Government to make that more of a priority.

A questionnaire from the Japanese authorities has been with the UK Government for some time and requires to be filled in. I hope that it will be returned very soon and that we can get the ban lifted and get Scotch beef on to the top restaurant tables in Japan and elsewhere in Asia.


Financial Support for Farmers (Extreme Weather Losses)

Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD)



3. To ask the Scottish Government what progress it has made in distributing financial support to farmers who experienced losses due to extreme weather earlier this year. (S4O-02354)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

The Scottish Government has made available a total of £6.5 million in compensation. I confirm that more than £730,000 has been paid to around 4,100 farmers. That will meet almost half the costs incurred in the collection of fallen stock that died because of the severe weather in March to May this year. The remainder will be used to meet eligible claims arising from more than 1,000 applications received under our weather aid scheme, with payments starting in the next 10 days.

Alison McInnes

I am glad to hear the cabinet secretary suggest that the payments will start in the next 10 days, but there has been a sense that he has been dragging his feet a little. We are approaching winter. I am sure that the cabinet secretary would agree that it is vital that the Government process the weather aid scheme payments without any further delay and gives farmers that certainty. Can he give me some idea of what percentage of payments will be made in the next 10 days?

Richard Lochhead

I am happy to send the member some of the rates that were in the application documents, because every case will be different. The compensation scheme will cover all livestock species affected so that people can claim for cattle and sheep and so on.

I have to pick up on the member’s comment that the Scottish Government is somehow dragging its feet. We are dealing with a complex and difficult situation faced by many farming businesses and we also have to meet state-aid rules. The industry is very understanding of the time taken; indeed it is a steering group involving industry members that is driving the weather aid scheme forward. If the member thinks that we are not doing enough in Scotland, perhaps she should look south of the border at the anger among farmers in England about the lack of support that they have received from the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition Government in that country.


Marine Protected Areas

Fiona McLeod (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)



4. To ask the Scottish Government what mechanisms are available to enforce nature conservation legislation regarding marine protected areas. (S4O-02355)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

A marine planning consultation is under way and that includes proposals for marine protected areas and details of how MPAs might be managed to protect habitats and species.

The main legislation for designation and management of MPAs is the Marine (Scotland) Act 2010 for inshore waters and the Marine and Coastal Access Act 2009 for the offshore area.

The Marine (Scotland) Act 2010 includes powers to make marine conservation orders to ensure that the conservation objectives of an MPA are met. The act also includes powers to set up management schemes to help to ensure that everyone knows which features are being protected through either statutory or voluntary measures.

Fiona McLeod

Does the cabinet secretary believe that the development of new technology will play an important role in helping Marine Scotland and enforcement officers to ensure that there are continuously effective compliance and enforcement arrangements?

Richard Lochhead

Fiona McLeod raises an interesting point. Marine Scotland is taking seriously the issue of how new technology can be used in relation to the marine protected areas. Of course, with regard to fisheries management, Scotland has helped to blaze a trail in terms of the use of closed-circuit television on fishing vessels, sensors on equipment and so on. We are giving a lot of attention to the issue.

Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab)

Can the cabinet secretary explain why activities that have been identified as having a negative impact on the protected features of an MPA can still be allowed to happen within some parts of that same area? How will that facilitate recovery of our seas? The proposed Clyde sea sill MPA is one such example, as demersal fishing may continue in some parts of the site.

Richard Lochhead

In each case in which a new marine protected area is proposed, there will be a management plan, which will have to be proportionate and effective and will be based on scientific evidence. I would welcome more information about the member’s concerns about the particular proposal that she mentions, but I assure the chamber that we are taking a sensible way forward to ensure that we balance the impact on marine industries with the need for the MPAs to do what they need to do, which is to protect the marine environment.

Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

How do ministers ensure that the needs of fishermen are fully considered when MPAs are proposed?

Richard Lochhead

The way in which Scotland has approached the identification of marine protected areas, through the Marine (Scotland) Act 2010, has been highly praised, especially when contrasted with the situation south of the border. Stakeholders feel that Scotland is going about this the right way and that there are perhaps lessons to be learned by the authorities down there.

I am confident that the interests of fishermen are being taken into account. Indeed, they have been fully involved in the consultation process to get us to where we are today.


Air Pollution

Anne McTaggart (Glasgow) (Lab)



5. To ask the Scottish Government whether it is meeting its targets to reduce air pollution. (S4O-02356)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

Although there are still some hotspots of poorer air quality in a number of urban areas, we are meeting domestic and European air quality targets across much of Scotland.

The Scottish Government is working closely with the Scottish Environment Protection Agency, local authorities, Transport Scotland and other partners to address the issues. We recognise that we must build on achievements to date and continue to take action to improve air quality.

That is why I welcome the report on Scottish emissions of several key air pollutants that was published today. It shows substantial reductions in emissions for all the pollutants since 1990. That is further confirmation that we have made significant progress in addressing poor air quality, but we are committed to continued action to ensure that that positive trend continues.

Anne McTaggart

The cabinet secretary will be aware that recent studies of the subway system in Glasgow have highlighted dangerously high levels of air pollution and a concentration of tiny metallic particles that is well in excess of recommended safety limits. In light of that discovery, what action has the Scottish Government taken to reduce levels of pollution and increase air quality for commuters in Glasgow?

Paul Wheelhouse

The member raises an important point. Clearly, we have an objective to try to ensure that all of Scotland meets the required standards. Glasgow is not expected to comply until after the 2015 deadline, as I am sure the member knows. The whole of Scotland is expected to comply with the limit values by 2015, based on a combination of current and planned measures, with the exception of one road stretch—the missing link of the M8 between Newhouse and Baillieston, to the east of Glasgow. Within the Glasgow city area, there are expected to be no exceedances of the limit values by 2015, so we are making progress.

We have to deal with that one stretch of road, which affects commuters to Glasgow, but we are planning to tackle that. Transport Scotland estimates completion of that stretch of road in 2017-18. Once the upgrade is complete, emissions along the road will also comply with the limit values.

Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green)

Edinburgh’s air quality management areas were extended this year because pollution targets are not being met. The City of Edinburgh Council now has a plan to cut pollution on Leith Walk by investing in walking and cycling, and it has asked Transport Scotland for a £3 million contribution. Will the Government contribute an appropriate portion of the Forth road bridge underspend to tackle the air pollution that the new bridge will cause?

Paul Wheelhouse

I run up against portfolio boundaries in terms of allocating spend from the Forth bridge. However, I take the serious point that Alison Johnstone makes and I am happy to meet her to discuss the issues and determine how we can progress action to tackle the AQMAs in the Lothians. I can always make representations to my colleague Keith Brown about the use of the funds.


Food Recycling



6. To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to promote food recycling. (S4O-02357)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

Since 2011, our zero waste programme has provided £20 million to councils throughout Scotland to support the roll-out of food-waste collections. That action means that, by February 2014, 1.2 million households will have access to a food-waste collection service.

In addition, the waste regulations that the Parliament passed last year will mean that the majority of households and businesses in Scotland will have access to a food-waste collection by the end of 2015, with many receiving the service by the end of this year.

Richard Baker

As the cabinet secretary said, the zero waste action plan identifies the contribution that food recycling can make to reducing landfill usage and greenhouse gas emissions. Will he tell me what national targets have been set to increase food recycling, what monitoring of progress towards any goals that have been set is being made and what action ministers are taking to increase food recycling not only in individual households but throughout the public sector? There is huge capacity for increased food recycling in those areas.

Richard Lochhead

The overall target for recycling is 70 per cent by 2025, and food waste has a contribution to make to that. There are no specific targets for food-waste recycling but, as I indicated in my answer, there are regulations in place that mean that, by 2016, all local authorities in Scotland will have an obligation to provide a waste collection service to non-rural homes. Therefore, I expect all local authorities to play a role in collecting food waste.

Of course, the best way that we can all contribute towards the target is just to finish the food on our plates, as I have done regularly throughout Scottish food and drink fortnight.


Gull Management Guidance



7. To ask the Scottish Government what guidance it provides to local authorities on gull management. (S4O-02358)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

Like all wild birds, gulls are protected by law. However, the law provides for licences to be granted to manage birds where there is a need to do so for reasons including the protection of public health and safety and preventing the spread of disease.

The Scottish Government recognises that urban gulls can pose real problems for residents and businesses, and it works with local authorities to try to develop solutions. That work has included commissioning a report on managing urban gulls from the British Trust for Ornithology, which is available on the Scottish Government website; setting up a taskforce to examine innovative solutions in the Dumfries area, including the use of falcons to displace nesting gulls, which is covered in “Use of Falcons to Displace Nesting Gulls from an Urban Area: Final Report”, which is also available on the Scottish Government website; and providing direct advice on gull management through Scottish Natural Heritage, as was done with Highland Council in 2012.

Jamie Hepburn

In the Carbrain and Greenfaulds area of Cumbernauld, people’s lives are being made a misery by the presence of a significant number of gulls. Some constituents report that they have been attacked.

The minister mentioned the Dumfries initiative. Does the Scottish Government share my regret that North Lanarkshire Council has refused to consider implementing such a scheme or any long-term strategies to deal with the issue despite the concern of a considerable number of my constituents?

Paul Wheelhouse

I certainly recognise the distress and disquiet that it can cause members of the public when such incidents occur. There is currently no requirement for local authorities to have an action plan in place to deal with problem gulls, but it is expected that local authorities throughout Scotland will be able to implement the recommendations of the Dumfries gull report to help to reduce the problem. I encourage the local authority in the case that Jamie Hepburn mentioned to take up that opportunity.


North-east Fishing Representatives (Meetings)

Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)



8. To ask the Scottish Government when it last met fishing representatives from north-east Scotland and what issues were discussed. (S4O-02359)

The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment (Richard Lochhead)

While I was in Fraserburgh for the Cabinet meeting on Monday 2 September, I jointly hosted a fishermen’s surgery, which was attended by around 50 vocal fishermen and industry representatives. We discussed a wide range of issues, such as the reform of the common fisheries policy, the allocation of fishing opportunities, the current state of the stocks and details of the £6 million support package that I recently announced to help the industry during these pretty tough economic times.

Maureen Watt

The cabinet secretary may be aware that Aberdeen City Council is undertaking redevelopment plans that would result in fish processors moving out of the Union Square area with no clear indication of where they should move to. That may impact on the critical mass of fish processing companies in the city and disproportionately on the community of Torry, where there are many other processors and where the vast majority of workers live. Does the cabinet secretary agree that fish processing plays, and should continue to play, an important role in Aberdeen’s economy?

Richard Lochhead

The great city of Aberdeen was of course built on its relationship with the sea. I believe that fish processing has a role in the local economy in Torry and throughout the city of Aberdeen, and I certainly hope that it will continue to have a role.

The relocation of the existing businesses is primarily an issue for Aberdeen City Council, but if Maureen Watt feels that there is a role for me or input required from me as fishing minister, I ask her to contact me.


Justice and the Law Officers


Solemn Procedure Recommendations



1. To ask the Scottish Government how many times a procurator fiscal’s recommendation to proceed on solemn procedure has been rejected by the Crown Office since 1999. (S4O-02362)

The Lord Advocate (Frank Mulholland QC)

The process to which the member refers is carried out not by the Crown Office but by independent Crown counsel. There is a long-standing convention where, in certain circumstances, the procurator fiscal seeks Crown counsel’s instruction on whether a case should be prosecuted and, if so, in what forum.

It is not uncommon to commence a case on solemn procedure—petition—and for that case to be reduced to summary once further investigation has taken place. In each of the past three years, the numbers of such decisions have been 1,764, 1,865 and 1,789 respectively.

I am unable to provide a figure in relation to what forum for prosecution has been recommended by the individual preparing the case for prosecution. That data is not recorded in a searchable manner in our information technology systems. To obtain that data would require manual examination of thousands of case papers within the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, which would be entirely disproportionate.

Jenny Marra

If I understand the Lord Advocate correctly, such negotiation between local procurators fiscal and the Crown Office occurs very frequently. The Lord Advocate cited figures that were between 1,500 and 2,000. What are the criteria for a local procurator fiscal’s decision to be reviewed by the Crown Office?

The Lord Advocate

It is not really about the criteria for a decision to be reviewed, because a decision has not been taken yet. There is a process whereby the case is investigated at a stage by the procurator fiscal. There are many reasons why cases start out as petition cases; for example, it may be that the procurator fiscal wishes to investigate more serious charges and that is part of the solemn process. It may be that the procurator fiscal wants to hold an identification parade or needs a warrant for samples or wishes to judicially examine or to have a judicial declaration by an accused. It is all part of the process whereby, ultimately, independent Crown counsel will assess a recommendation, assess all the circumstances and then take a decision as to whether proceedings should be raised and, if so, in what forum. That process has been going on for hundreds of years in Scotland’s prosecution service.

It may be that the member is alluding to an issue about who takes the decisions—which member of Crown counsel takes the decisions in high-profile cases in which there are allegations of criminal conduct by a member of the Scottish Parliament. I can tell the member, as confirmed by the Crown Agent in March of this year in a letter to the Justice Committee, that where there are allegations against members of Parliament or MSPs or COPFS members of staff, that decision is not taken by law officers at all. They will not see the papers. That decision is taken by independent Crown counsel. I hope that that allays any concerns that the member or others may have. That is the process; it is a process that works and one that has been carried out for a long time.

Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con)

Is it not the case that, regardless of what procedure is used for domestic abuse cases, zero tolerance of domestic abuse is being let down by zero sentencing? Does the Lord Advocate consider it acceptable that nearly a third of those who were convicted of domestic abuse in 2011-12 were admonished in court and 12 per cent were handed a custodial sentence, which in the vast majority of cases was for less than six months, especially given the concerns that Jenny Marra has raised?

The Lord Advocate

Margaret Mitchell will appreciate that it is not appropriate for me to make any comments about sentencing, as that is a matter entirely for the courts. If I disagree with a sentence—by “I”, I mean procurators fiscal and Crown counsel—and if we can do something about it, we will. For example, there are procedures for us to take an appeal on the basis that a sentence is unduly lenient. However, beyond that, I do not comment publicly on sentencing.

I should add that I have been concerned about some of the comments that have been made recently about the Bill Walker case. This is a very sensitive period, because he has not been sentenced. It is important that all members are careful that any comments they make cannot be seen to be a direct or indirect means of influencing the sentence. The sentence is entirely a matter for the court. Due process will be carried out on 20 September, when the sheriff, who has heard all the evidence and has the background reports, will impose an appropriate sentence.


Chief Constable (Meetings)



2. To ask the Scottish Government when the Cabinet Secretary for Justice last met the chief constable of Police Scotland and what matters were discussed. (S4O-02363)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

I met the chief constable on Monday, when we both spoke at the Alcohol Focus Scotland national licensing conference in Glasgow. However, the last formal meeting was on 22 August, when we discussed a number of issues relating to the policing of Scotland.

Following the cabinet secretary’s discussions with the chief constable, can he advise me how many registered sex offenders remain unaccounted for in Scotland?

Kenny MacAskill

I do not have that information. As Mr Martin will know from previous discussions, the number varies on a weekly if not daily basis. However, these matters are monitored by the police. I will ensure that full and detailed information is sent to Mr Martin.


Court Capacity



3. To ask the Scottish Government what assessment it has made of court capacity following the implementation of its court closures policy. (S4O-02364)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

The assessment of court capacity was made by the Scottish Court Service, which is now an independent body corporate under the leadership of the Lord President. The SCS consulted on a range of proposals to use its estate more efficiently. Proposals to close courts required the approval of ministers and were considered by the Justice Committee.

The sheriff courts that have been scheduled for closure account for only 5 per cent of the overall business in sheriff courts, and the Scottish Court Service is satisfied that the business can be readily accommodated in the receiving courts for all those courts that are being closed. The SCS has assured me that it has done a thorough review of business trends. The service and the Lord President are confident that the court closure programme will provide a court structure that is fit for the 21st century and which supports the reforms that are being done now and those that are planned for the future.

Alex Johnstone

The forthcoming courts reform bill will transfer significant business from the Court of Session to sheriff courts, which will put even greater pressure on the courts that have survived the Government’s cuts programme. How will the Scottish Government ensure that access to justice is maintained in the north-east, given that Forfar and Aberdeen sheriff courts, which are already busy, will have to absorb business from Arbroath and Stonehaven as well as significant extra work from the Court of Session?

Kenny MacAskill

Those matters have been fully factored in by the Scottish Court Service. When the Lord President appeared before the Justice Committee, he made that clear in his answers. On the transfer of business from Stonehaven to Aberdeen, it might be useful if I remind Mr Johnstone of the business at Stonehaven. In 2011-12, there were four jury trials, 11 civil ordinary actions in which a debate on legal matters proceeded or evidence was heard, and two summary cause or small claims proofs. There is capacity at Aberdeen, and the Scottish Court Service has considered its approach on that basis and in the face of the unprecedented budget cuts that are being forced on the Scottish Government and which impact on the Scottish Court Service. Efficiency is required and action must be taken, and the Scottish Court Service is satisfied that, notwithstanding the financial constraints, Aberdeen and Forfar will be able to cope.

Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab)

The cabinet secretary has discussed the programme of court closures. Would he be good enough to share with us whether he is aware of any on-going conversations about a new phase of future closures under consideration?

No.

Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind)

Will the court closures have a knock-on effect on the number of hours that police officers will be expected to attend court as potential witnesses or for any other reason? I imagine that that would not help their morale just now. Will he also say whether he has had any reports of morale being not what it should be in the old Lothian and Borders Police area?

Kenny MacAskill

I assure Margo MacDonald that the Scottish Court Service discusses such matters with Police Scotland. Trials are scheduled, and the officers’ availability is factored in, so matters are being dealt with in that respect.

I am certainly not aware of any concerns about the morale of officers in Lothian and Borders. I meet officers on a regular basis—not only the local inspectors but any officers whom I happen to bump into—and I will raise the issue with the Scottish Police Federation, with which I am meeting tomorrow. It seems to me that morale in Police Scotland so far is remarkably high.


Cycling Accidents (Dangerous Driving)



4. To ask the Scottish Government what steps Police Scotland is taking to reduce the number of accidents involving cyclists that are due to dangerous driving. (S4O-02365)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

That is an operational matter for the chief constable of Police Scotland, who has confirmed that he is committed to improving road safety and reducing road casualties. It is one of the force’s top five priorities, and more emphasis than ever before is being placed on pursuing that aim throughout Scotland.

Kezia Dugdale

Is the cabinet secretary aware of the Edinburgh cycling community’s deep and widespread concern about the Government’s “nice way code” campaign? Given that concern, and the high number of cycling fatalities in the past few months, will he, along with the Minister for Transport and Veterans, meet activists to discuss the campaign and perhaps review the nice way code?

Kenny MacAskill

The transport minister and I discuss those matters regularly, and we recently met the Association of Scottish Police Superintendents.

I am aware of the concern among Edinburgh’s cycling community. In my capacity as justice secretary, I met people who had recently lost a loved one in a high-profile incident in the city, and another constituent who had lost a relative in an incident that happened outwith Edinburgh. I am aware of the huge grief and trauma that is caused.

I know that my colleague Keith Brown views the issue as significant, and he and I—together or individually—will doubtless discuss it with the chief constable and with Superintendent Murray, who is in charge of the road policing unit, which has primary responsibility for the matter.

I assure Kezia Dugdale that the Government and the police acknowledge the tragedies that have happened. Work must be undertaken, and it is already on-going.

What advice has been given to ensure that sentencing policy is appropriate, given the rise in the number of accidents that have resulted in the deaths of cyclists in the past year?

Kenny MacAskill

It would be inappropriate for me to give advice on sentencing until the sentencing council is up and running. The decision is entirely for the court to take.

As Sarah Boyack will be aware, there is an on-going case—which is sub judice—in which an appeal was heard by the Crown because it was felt that a sentence was unduly lenient. I fully support the Crown and endorse its actions in that regard, and the court will deliberate and make a decision in that case shortly.


“Inspection report on Lanarkshire Area of Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service”

John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP)



5. To ask the Scottish Government what issues were identified in the latest “Inspection report on Lanarkshire Area of Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service” and what progress has been made on those. (S4O-02366)

The Lord Advocate (Frank Mulholland QC)

Appropriate action has been taken in the seven suggested areas for improvement, and on the six recommendations from the inspection report on the Lanarkshire area, which was published in May 2010.

In 2012, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service restructured into four federations: namely west, east, north and national, which incorporates the Scottish fatalities investigation unit and various other specialised units such as health and safety and wildlife and environmental crime. The Lanarkshire area now forms part of the west federation.

The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service has fully embraced the use of technology to improve preparation of cases. We continually review practices and procedures to identify where improvements can be made. For example, the inspectorate made some recommendations on disclosure of evidence. The method by which disclosure is made has been reviewed and radically changed since 2010; all defence solicitors across the country now have access to online disclosure, which allows statements, photographs and documentary productions to be shared electronically. That ensures that an accurate record is kept of all disclosed material.

John Wilson

I thank the Lord Advocate for his response. What is being done to deal with the problem of “continuations”, which was identified in the 2010 report? Is management dealing with that in an appropriate manner?

The Lord Advocate

John Wilson rightly raises a matter that was of concern to the inspector in 2010. The issue is commonly referred to as “churn” in the summary courts across Scotland. I point out that responsibility for tackling churn lies with all court users, not just the Crown—the 2010 report made that very point—but the Crown has been proactive in its response. Initiatives include surgeries for solicitors to discuss pleas with procurators fiscal; writing to solicitors in all summary cases to advise what plea will be acceptable to the Crown from the outset of the court process; the provision of summaries of evidence at the start of the court process; and creating secure email and online disclosure for defence solicitors.

We have also taken steps to improve witness attendance at court, with the introduction of a successful pilot witness-texting service, which sends text reminders to witnesses to attend court.

I have no doubt that all those initiatives have contributed to a reduction in churn in our summary courts. National statistics that have been collated by the Scottish Court Service show that trial-diet churn has decreased by almost 4 per cent over the past three years. However, that is not being complacent; there is more work to be done, and procurators fiscal will be at the forefront of that work.


Police Stations (Police Scotland Review)

Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)



6. To ask the Scottish Government which police stations are being considered for closure or a reduction in counter opening hours in Police Scotland’s review of police station service delivery. (S4O-02367)

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill)

The issue is an operational matter for the chief constable of the Police Service of Scotland.

The Government is committed to protecting and supporting front-line services: 1,000 more officers have been recruited, recorded crime is at a 39-year low, and crimes of handling an offensive weapon are at a 27-year low and have been reduced by 60 per cent since 2006-07.

The new 101 telephone number is operational for the reporting of non-emergency incidents and, of course, 999 remains available for serious incidents and emergencies. Contact can also be made through email, social media and call points.

Drew Smith

I thank the cabinet secretary for that comprehensive answer, including the information on using social media for reporting crime.

Over the summer, the chief constable wrote to members about Police Scotland’s review of the number and opening hours of police counters in police stations. The chief constable specifically highlighted the budget that he has been given by Mr MacAskill. Given the concerns about backfilling, which have been well aired in the Parliament on previous occasions, can the cabinet secretary confirm whether any Glasgow police stations are on a list for reduced services? Can he tell us what his priorities are, since they appear to be neither the back room nor the front counter?

Kenny MacAskill

Our priority is maintaining the 1,000 additional officers and continuing the outstanding record of a 39-year low in recorded crime.

I think that Mr Smith forgets that the review is looking at the level of public service that occurs at police offices, and not necessarily at closure of police stations. However, that will be a matter for Mr House to consider and will ultimately be a matter for the Scottish Police Authority. In the interim, the Government will continue to provide support to ensure that we have that visible police presence in our communities, thereby making Scotland safer than ever before.

I will allow a brief supplementary from John Pentland.

John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab)

Can the cabinet secretary guarantee that, when proposals come forward, consultation will take place? Will previous consultations be borne in mind? Will local people be given the opportunity to voice their concerns at public meetings?

Kenny MacAskill

I recognise that Mr Pentland has not been a member of the Justice Committee and is not sighted on justice matters, but those are now matters for the chief constable, who is ultimately held to account by the Scottish Police Authority. If Mr Pentland or the Labour Party wish to change that constitutional structure, Parliament could doubtless review it, but I have no rights or powers over such matters, at present. I believe that Parliament made the right decision in that regard, and I stand by that. Mr Pentland may care to raise the issue with the Scottish Police Authority.