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Chamber and committees

Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee,

Meeting date: Wednesday, May 1, 2002


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University of St Andrews (Postgraduate Medical Degrees) Bill

Item 5 is consideration of whether to discuss the draft stage 1 report, which is on the general principles of the bill, in private. We are not discussing the report today.

Simon Watkins (Clerk):

The committee has always considered draft reports in private.

We are discussing not the bill, but our report on the bill. Is the matter at our discretion?

Simon Watkins:

It is at our discretion, but in the past three years, the committee has considered every report in private before it has been published.

Is any controversy expected?

There is no controversy. I received a letter from the minister that said that the Executive is happy with the bill, provided that the court of the University of St Andrews is happy with it.

I am fundamentally agin discussing matters in private when they do not need to be in private.

That is my instinct, too, but I do not want to set a precedent. If we agree to take the discussion in public, it will be a one-off, because it would be anarchic to draft reports in public.

Miss Goldie:

That helps me with the point that I was about to make. The bill concerns a technical matter that has become the subject of statute because of the university's mechanism for creating new degree courses. For that reason, I support Brian Fitzpatrick's view.

Shall we strike a second blow for transparency and take the discussion in public?

That would be nice for the people who have stayed on.

The Convener:

I hope that that decision will be recorded by those who have reported that this committee is one of the most secretive. As the meeting is on camera, I hope that Business a.m. in particular has noted that we have decided twice to take matters in public and not in private. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.