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Chamber and committees

Equal Opportunities Committee

Meeting date: Thursday, February 7, 2013


Contents


Policing (Sub-committee)

The Convener (Mary Fee)

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Equal Opportunities Committee’s fifth meeting in 2013. I remind everyone to switch off their mobile phones or to set them to flight mode.

Agenda item 2 is on the establishment of a sub-committee on policing. We have received a letter from the Justice Committee, which explains the reasons behind the setting up of the sub-committee. It invites us to comment on the proposal that a member of our committee be represented on the sub-committee, with a view to our putting forward someone to be a member of it.

I have spoken to Christine Grahame about the matter and I would quite like to be put forward to go on the sub-committee, if the committee agrees to that.

Agreed.

John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)

As the proposal has come from the Justice Committee, I can see why the focus is on the police, but it struck me that the fire service is a relevant consideration, too, particularly for our committee, as I think that the police have been slightly better at integrating men and women in the force, whereas the fire services have, in general, failed in that regard—in comparison with the police, at least—as very few women work in them.

Is there any mechanism whereby arrangements for both the police and the fire services could be reviewed?

The Convener

I am not altogether sure. The sub-committee has been proposed to look at the changes to the police service. It will not take an overview of the new fire service.

I do not altogether agree with your summing up of integration in the police force.

I was just making a comparative point.

In taking forward the single police force, it is extremely important that a view on equality and a number of other issues is represented. The sub-committee will be important.

John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind)

There was quite a bit of discussion of the proposal at the Justice Committee, of which I should declare that I am a member. Some recent unfortunate events have shown that, now more than ever, there is a compelling need for parliamentary scrutiny of the situation.

I notice that the letter from the convener of the Justice Committee says:

“we are not asking at this stage for you to nominate a particular member”.

The Convener

As I said, I spoke to Christine Grahame about the matter. We are to respond by tomorrow. I expressed an interest in going on the sub-committee. If the committee agrees, we can write back and say that we will nominate someone, but do that later, or we can nominate someone now, if we so choose.

John Finnie

I mention that because the Parliamentary Bureau has to be involved. If we are to have a representative on the sub-committee—I have no issue with you being our representative—it might be worth establishing what the bureau’s view is first. I am not a spokesperson for any group, but the independent and Green grouping of members would anticipate having a member on that sub-committee.

The Convener

As far as I am aware, the political make-up of the sub-committee has already been decided. I am also aware that members of other committees have been suggested as members of the sub-committee. The representative from this committee would be a Labour member.

I am blissfully unaware of all of that. Such are the workings of the Scottish Parliament. If the committee’s representative is to be a Labour member, I would be content if it were you, convener.

Thank you.

Marco Biagi (Edinburgh Central) (SNP)

I echo that point. I do not think that we should nominate someone until such time as we are asked to do so, given that what goes on in such channels is always subject to change.

In the letter, we are asked to make a decision in principle. It specifically says:

“we are not asking at this stage for you to nominate a particular member”.

I am perfectly content for us to agree in principle to nominate a member and to nominate someone when we are formally invited to do so.

That is fine.

In which case, I withdraw my previous agreement. I agree to the principle and should you require someone to nominate you at a later stage, I will do it.

Thank you very much.

We will contact the Justice Committee and say that we would like to have someone on the sub-committee. We will send a letter to that effect.

09:20 Meeting suspended.

09:35 On resuming—