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Chamber and committees

Plenary, 27 Nov 2002

Meeting date: Wednesday, November 27, 2002


Contents


Business Motion

The next item of business is consideration of business motion S1M-3643, in the name of Patricia Ferguson.

Motion moved,

That the Parliament agrees—

(a) the following programme of business—

Wednesday 4 December 2002

2:30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Ministerial Statement on Local Government Finance Allocations

followed by Finance Committee Debate on its 5th Report 2002, Public Private Partnerships

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business—debate on the subject of S1M-3504 Bill Butler: Provision of Dedicated Mother and Baby Services for Women with Post-Natal Depression

Thursday 5 December 2002

9:30 am Stage 1 Debate on Building (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of Building (Scotland) Bill

followed by Executive Debate on Criminal Justice Bill—UK Legislation

followed by Executive Debate on Crime (International Co-operation) Bill—UK Legislation

followed by Business Motion

2:30 pm Question Time

3:10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3:30 pm Executive Debate on The Future of Europe Convention—the Scottish Dimension

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Wednesday 11 December 2002

2:30 pm Time for Reflection

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

followed by Stage 1 Debate on Mental Health (Scotland) Bill

followed by Financial Resolution in respect of the Mental Health (Scotland) Bill

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

Thursday 12 December 2002

9:30 am Scottish National Party Business

followed by Business Motion

2:30 pm Question Time

3:10 pm First Minister's Question Time

3:30 pm Executive Debate on Fisheries 2003

followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5:00 pm Decision Time

followed by Members' Business

and (b) that Stage 2 of the Protection of Children (Scotland) Bill be completed by 20 December 2002 and that Stage 2 of the Title Conditions (Scotland) Bill be completed by 24 January 2003.—[Patricia Ferguson.]

Mr Sheridan wishes to oppose the motion.

Tommy Sheridan (Glasgow) (SSP):

I wish to oppose the business motion because there is no facility within it for a proper debate on the firefighters' dispute, which is now in its eighth day and which affects the whole of Scotland. One minister has already been forced to resign because of his disgraceful comments about the firefighters. We should have a proper debate about how the Scottish Executive is handling the dispute. We need to know whether Mr Simpson was the only minister who held those views about the firefighters. We also need to know what the Executive is doing to take up this morning's proposal by the Scottish Trades Union Congress, which suggested that the Executive should be imaginative and show the colour of its money in meeting the reasonable and justified demands of the Fire Brigades Union. The Executive should take the initiative to solve the dispute and give the firefighters the professional pay that they deserve.

I oppose the motion and ask that a proper one-hour debate on the firefighters' dispute be added to the agenda.

I say to the member who has requested to speak that only one member may speak for the motion and one against it. Does Patricia Ferguson wish to respond?

I moved the motion, which is sufficient.

The question is, that business motion S1M-3643 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

There will be a division.

For

Adam, Brian (North-East Scotland) (SNP)
Alexander, Ms Wendy (Paisley North) (Lab)
Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Barrie, Scott (Dunfermline West) (Lab)
Boyack, Sarah (Edinburgh Central) (Lab)
Brankin, Rhona (Midlothian) (Lab)
Brown, Robert (Glasgow) (LD)
Butler, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)
Campbell, Colin (West of Scotland) (SNP)
Chisholm, Malcolm (Edinburgh North and Leith) (Lab)
Craigie, Cathie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab)
Crawford, Bruce (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)
Cunningham, Roseanna (Perth) (SNP)
Curran, Ms Margaret (Glasgow Baillieston) (Lab)
Eadie, Helen (Dunfermline East) (Lab)
Ewing, Dr Winnie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Ewing, Fergus (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP)
Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) (SNP)
Fabiani, Linda (Central Scotland) (SNP)
Ferguson, Patricia (Glasgow Maryhill) (Lab)
Fitzpatrick, Brian (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab)
Gibson, Mr Kenneth (Glasgow) (SNP)
Godman, Trish (West Renfrewshire) (Lab)
Gorrie, Donald (Central Scotland) (LD)
Grahame, Christine (South of Scotland) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Gray, Iain (Edinburgh Pentlands) (Lab)
Hamilton, Mr Duncan (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Henry, Hugh (Paisley South) (Lab)
Home Robertson, Mr John (East Lothian) (Lab)
Hughes, Janis (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab)
Ingram, Mr Adam (South of Scotland) (SNP)
Jackson, Dr Sylvia (Stirling) (Lab)
Jamieson, Cathy (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (Lab)
Jamieson, Margaret (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (Lab)
Jenkins, Ian (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD)
Kerr, Mr Andy (East Kilbride) (Lab)
Lamont, Johann (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab)
Livingstone, Marilyn (Kirkcaldy) (Lab)
Lochhead, Richard (North-East Scotland) (SNP)
Macdonald, Lewis (Aberdeen Central) (Lab)
Macintosh, Mr Kenneth (Eastwood) (Lab)
MacKay, Angus (Edinburgh South) (Lab)
Maclean, Kate (Dundee West) (Lab)
Macmillan, Maureen (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Martin, Paul (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Central Scotland) (SNP)
McAveety, Mr Frank (Glasgow Shettleston) (Lab)
McConnell, Mr Jack (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab)
McLeish, Henry (Central Fife) (Lab)
McLeod, Fiona (West of Scotland) (SNP)
McMahon, Mr Michael (Hamilton North and Bellshill) (Lab)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab)
Morgan, Alasdair (Galloway and Upper Nithsdale) (SNP)
Morrison, Mr Alasdair (Western Isles) (Lab)
Muldoon, Bristow (Livingston) (Lab)
Mulligan, Mrs Mary (Linlithgow) (Lab)
Munro, John Farquhar (Ross, Skye and Inverness West) (LD)
Murray, Dr Elaine (Dumfries) (Lab)
Neil, Alex (Central Scotland) (SNP)
Oldfather, Irene (Cunninghame South) (Lab)
Paterson, Mr Gil (Central Scotland) (SNP)
Peacock, Peter (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Peattie, Cathy (Falkirk East) (Lab)
Radcliffe, Nora (Gordon) (LD)
Raffan, Mr Keith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD)
Reid, Mr George (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)
Robison, Shona (North-East Scotland) (SNP)
Rumbles, Mr Mike (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) (LD)
Russell, Michael (South of Scotland) (SNP)
Scott, Tavish (Shetland) (LD)
Smith, Iain (North-East Fife) (LD)
Smith, Mrs Margaret (Edinburgh West) (LD)
Stephen, Nicol (Aberdeen South) (LD)
Stevenson, Stewart (Banff and Buchan) (SNP)
Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow) (SNP)
Swinney, Mr John (North Tayside) (SNP)
Thomson, Elaine (Aberdeen North) (Lab)
Ullrich, Kay (West of Scotland) (SNP)
Wallace, Mr Jim (Orkney) (LD)
Watson, Mike (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab)
Welsh, Mr Andrew (Angus) (SNP)
White, Ms Sandra (Glasgow) (SNP)
Whitefield, Karen (Airdrie and Shotts) (Lab)
Wilson, Allan (Cunninghame North) (Lab)
Wilson, Andrew (Central Scotland) (SNP)

Against

Canavan, Dennis (Falkirk West)
Harper, Robin (Lothians) (Grn)
McAllion, Mr John (Dundee East) (Lab)
Quinan, Mr Lloyd (West of Scotland) (SNP)
Sheridan, Tommy (Glasgow) (SSP)
Wallace, Ben (North-East Scotland) (Con)

Absentions

Aitken, Bill (Glasgow) (Con)
Davidson, Mr David (North-East Scotland) (Con)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James (Lothians) (Con)
Elder, Dorothy-Grace (Glasgow) (Ind)
Fergusson, Alex (South of Scotland) (Con)
Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Gallie, Phil (South of Scotland) (Con)
Goldie, Miss Annabel (West of Scotland) (Con)
Harding, Mr Keith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
McGrigor, Mr Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay (Central Scotland) (Con)
Monteith, Mr Brian (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Mundell, David (South of Scotland) (Con)
Scanlon, Mary (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Scott, John (Ayr) (Con)
Smith, Elaine (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab)
Tosh, Mr Murray (South of Scotland) (Con)
Young, John (West of Scotland) (Con)

The result of the division is: For 86, Against 6, Abstentions 18.

Motion agreed to.