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It is not the hearing that is important; the critical point is the perception that the decision-taking body takes people's objections into account, no matter whether they are lodged in writing or heard orally.
I hope that we can do two things as a result of that work: first, to give an objective account of how efficiently and effectively that programme is being developed and, secondly, to draw out the lessons from that.
With regard to the economic impact, examples have been given of lay-offs at abattoirs. Is anything being done to help the staff who have lost their jobs?
I acknowledge that the minister referred to that. We must take into account the abattoir sector, the livestock haulage sector and the other sectors that are dependent on the meat supply chain in Scotland.
We have until 22 February, which is the end of the 40-day period from the laying of the instrument. Any MSP can lodge a motion to propose to the lead committee that the order be annulled.
How could you ensure that private sector certifiers and verifiers were publicly accountable and impartial? The requirements for impartiality and public accountability are for verifiers, which is why verifying will be done through local authorities.
I would like to pick up on the question of accountability. Although this is not part of the Audit Committee's remit, should we not be thinking about the specific roles, responsibilities and accountability of local authorities?