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The two Government departments should work together, co-ordinate with the local authorities on best practice and recognise that the best ideas probably come from the local authorities rather than from the top down.
You and I have worked together over the years, Dr Allan, and you know that to be true. It is best to encourage local authorities to deliver in the best way that they possibly can and to have robust discussion about it.
Is there no way of changing the service that is currently available to ensure that we keep the best parts of it while acknowledging that there are problems and sorting them out through having a national contract rather than local contracts?
Jeremy Purvis is entitled to have his concerns and we should do our best to accommodate the fact that he advanced them at committee, but that should not influence the committee's decision on the LCM.
At that stage, organisations such as ours will come back with much clearer information. We have done our best to give you our sense of the financial memorandum, but it has been difficult.