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Barriers are being put up in small ways that will be disadvantageous. That will affect people’s lives and it will make people decide how they will live the rest of their lives.
This is not some interesting case that will inform people for years to come. It is people’s lives that we are talking about here—the lives of the complainants, myself and the other people involved.
There are questions about whether spin-outs result in scale-ups, whereby such companies become more substantial. Those are live questions that are within the domain of economic development, so we have considered them.
Secondly, I want to talk about the living wage. The Poverty Alliance says that employers who pay the living wage have reported a 25 per cent fall in absenteeism.
We should not just have criminality as a trigger for expulsion, because, in the future, we might live in less enlightened times.I have a lot of sympathy with Lorna Slater’s remarks about peaceful protests.
The workshop that we then ran with the living lab was focused on that but also allowed for discussion of some of the concerns that had been raised—for example, in relation to the commencement of section 10.