At our 29 March meeting, we heard evidence that secure accommodation costs around four times as much as prison and that Scotland currently has 84 secure places, with the largest provider of those being St Mary’s Kenmure. Jim Shields of St Mary’s said that funding right now was precarious and that it needed certainty; Professor Lorraine Johnstone said that, at times, St Mary’s has relied on cross-border placements to ensure that it is sustainable.