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That trips easily off the tongue. That fund was also de-ringed and unhypothecated. It is a fairly substantial amount—more than £60 million, if I remember correctly.
In the case of the larger boards—Glasgow, Lothian and perhaps Tayside and Aberdeen—it might be possible for the incremental costs to be de minimis. By the nature of the smaller boards, the costs will be de minimis anyway, so perhaps it is not a strong issue.
It would be helpful if a nominee of the work force was a director of CalMac. Des McNulty asked about the implications of fragmentation from the work force's point of view.
There may be occasions when the elderly community's demand for a service is different from that of the rest of the community; that is the case with services such as the one that Des McNulty mentioned. That leaves us in a constant dilemma.
For members to say, "It wisnae me," will not wash because it is not accurate. Will Des McNulty give way? No. When we started out in the Parliament—Interruption.
It might also result in their being given the difficult issues so that they are undermined, in which case the minister will, de facto, be undermined, so it will be, "Ta ta."
Our problem is that general criticisms are made that are difficult to pin down. Sometimes, I offer challenges: I have said to many business people whom I have met that if they have specific concerns, I am more than willing for my department or another department to examine them.