In looking at how to make things sustainable there was discussion of a white paper being prepared and a suggestion of using AI to identify sustainable fashion. ▪ Maurice Golden then asked Lynn Wilson and Esra Aydogdu what success would look like. ▪ They responded that it would be a national strategy that involved everyone in Scotland. ▪ A final talking point was raised on how to achieve behaviour change within the textiles space (through nudges or regulation) and how to get consumers to what is best for them and the planet. ▪ Wendy Rayner responded to the point on behaviour change and said there was a need for superior garments, so that people feel valued (clinicians), etc.