Members are aware of that, but I would have like to have been able to speak to Professor Cockburn and to hear his evidence, which no one has yet seen because the health board has not produced it.I am concerned by the petition: proper consultation did not take place in that evidence was either withheld or lost, according to the health board. Experts did not even visit the Queen Mum's, the closing down of which has been based on facts that were not widely presented to the public.We have to take seriously the expert evidence that we have and I fully support everything in the petition.