Simplification is a good idea, but we need to emphasise the importance of the conversation at the individual, board and patient levels. 10:15 We need to look at simplifying the guidelines so that professionals adhere to them, but, on the basis of what all the witnesses have been saying, that would seem to be a long way off because everyone is different. There are guidelines for X, Y and Z, but one cannot put X, Y and Z together.