We do not want a situation in which the state simply assumes all the responsibility. There is a critical point at which we need to intervene. If we intervene too early, we interfere inappropriately, but if we intervene too late, the damage might well have been done, as Trish Godman rightly pointed out.Christine Grahame talked about young carers and the effects on children who are made to assume responsibilities that are way beyond their years.