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That is not to suggest by any stretch of the imagination that we do not need new homes; we need many new homes. We need a new-build programme for social housing across the board.
I also thank those in the gallery who have come through from Glasgow to join us this evening.I should declare an interest because I am a visiting professor at the University of Strathclyde.
That eye-opening study drew many lessons from a study visit that Scots made to west Norway, when they visited islands and fjords in Hordaland and Bergen, which is Norway's second city and its oil capital.