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She very kindly referred me to research by Professor Glen Bramley of Heriot-Watt University, which I have now found on the Communities Scotland website and on which I will base a few points this afternoon.
Let me give Mr McLetchie a good example of what I am talking about. This morning, I was at the Western general in Edinburgh, which is part of what, in Scotland, we call a managed clinical network.
My second question relates to that point. The witnesses talked about the differential rates of expenditure, both between departments and compared with the overall rate of expenditure.
That should be considered. I will deal with those points in reverse order. I agree with what Karen Whitefield said about cumulative effect, which she has talked to me about before.
We should ask him for details of those, at least as a starting point. We will have an opportunity to revisit the issue when the minister comes before the committee to talk about the Judicial Appointments Board next month.