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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 October 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. I will focus a bit more on the social security budget. In broad terms, if you are looking to make savings, you could either change the rules for eligibility or you could reduce the amount of money that a person gets. Do you think that either of those is necessary in the next year in order to deliver the social security budget?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I cannot see the online witnesses—can they see and hear us? There we go—good morning, gentlemen.

I welcome you all and thank you for coming. From your perspectives, what are the main pressures on the Scottish Government in trying to balance next year’s budget? What role does social security play in the great scheme of things?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jeremy Balfour

I wonder if I can develop that point—I am conscious of time, so you should not feel that you have to answer every question that I or other members ask.

Interestingly, the MS Society Scotland, in its submission, said that universalism would

“risk spreading ... resources too thinly”.

Nobody wants to talk about that aspect of universalism, because the thinking is that everybody wants everything. However, there is no means testing for ADP, for example, so someone like me, on a very good salary, and somebody who has no other money will both get it. Is that an aspect that we should be adding to the conversation? Should we be asking whether all these benefits should, in fact, be non-means tested, or does that go back to the 1980s?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Absolutely. I think that my question is brief; whether the answer is brief might be another issue.

One issue that we have not touched on is the three additional benefits that the Government plans to introduce next fiscal year regarding the two-child limit, the pension-age winter heating payment and the carer’s additional person payment. Those involve political choices that we as a Parliament will make, and there are moral decisions and so on to take into account, but purely from a fiscal point of view, is this the right time to be introducing new benefits? After all, as we have been hearing for getting on for the past hour and 50 minutes—almost—there is a great deal of uncertainty around the social security budget. I am not asking for a political or moral view, but, on a purely fiscal basis, is this the time to be doing this? What are the dangers of doing it? I appreciate that the committee wants a quick answer, if that would be possible.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 4 September 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you for your time.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, and thank you for coming. To follow up on that, I do not know whether this issue came up at all, but I know that it is not in your recommendations. Over the past eight years, we have debated whether the charter should have a legal basis and whether people felt that its impact would be greater if it did. Did that come up in any of your conversations? Is it something that you might look at in future reviews of the charter?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jeremy Balfour

This question is for Judith Paterson, because she has a bit more experience in this area. In the regulations that you scrutinise, are there common themes that you pick up almost every time? What have you learned that would be helpful for us?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jeremy Balfour

That is helpful. I know that the timescales are quite tight for you at the start of the process; you do not get that long to do your scrutiny work. Are you coping with that? Is it easier now that you are back to having a full team, or does that still give you concern?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Scottish Commission on Social Security

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Jeremy Balfour

You have had six years of scrutinising primary legislation. In relation to the future development of Scottish social security, are there any lessons that, collectively, you have learned? Without getting into policy, do you have any comments on the way in which primary legislation is produced or anything around that?