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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

It is a combination of policy and delivery, as you highlight. Sometimes in those areas, the distinction is perhaps not as clear. I do not know whether there is any detail that you want to add, Niall.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

It would be helpful if the committee were of one mind on the level of detail that it wants to be provided to it, with reference to what we already provide. I would be very happy to have that discussion and engagement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Yes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

The way in which the reserve operates means that it is a facility to allow us to carry forward underspends from one financial year into the next. The nature of underspends is that they can emerge very late in the day. We saw particular examples of that during the pandemic, when late funding announcements were made and there was simply not the means to deliver on that expenditure prior to 1 April, so the reserve provides that facility.

The sources of funding for the reserve were set out in some detail. Niall, do you want to give more detail?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

That is an important point. It is about recognising that reserves are there for a purpose. They give bodies that have that facility a degree of flexibility that is commensurate with their roles and responsibilities. We recognise that, in the financial situation in which we find ourselves, that facility is available, which allows and assists us to manage the overall budget position. Of course, implicit in your argument is the idea that the continual use and depletion of reserves would clearly be a cause for concern. They are there for a purpose; there will have been a logic and rationale behind that facility being available. What we have set out in some of the specific items that we have discussed with an agency that has reserves reflects the circumstances in which we find ourselves.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Yes, and, as I said in reference to Creative Scotland, we have committed to the reinstatement of funding in future budgets that we have not been able to provide in the autumn budget revision.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

Our approach is not to set exact numbers or particular targets; the clear focus is on recognising the need to deliver services more efficiently, which means more shared services, more collaboration, and working across administrative and organisational boundaries. It also means looking at the disposition of our estate. All of those factors are in play, but key to this is a real focus on delivery and on ensuring that our public services do not just deliver services to meet the needs of people but are very much focused on a preventative agenda.

I recognise the committee’s interest in medium to longer-term fiscal sustainability, and opportunities to increase revenue—whether through tax or, in the medium term, economic growth—are going to be key. However, we know that we cannot meet that demand simply from increased revenue alone; we have to look at how we prevent that demand and avoid the risk of further demand emerging. It is about looking at how we reform our public services not just to meet the fiscal challenges that we face in the here and now but to deliver a more efficient and effective service that is focused on the preventative agenda. Embracing that approach is not about setting ourselves definite numbers for headcounts; instead, it is focused on those particular priorities and ensuring that we have a workforce that can meet that particular requirement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

That is why I referred to our consideration of the presentation of the budget and why we have to take cognisance of the Verity house agreement as well.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

I want to highlight how that £2 million has been generated. There has been delivery of greater income streams through higher marine licensing fees. There are also more shared service arrangements and collaborative working, as part of a range of efficiency measures. That saving has been generated in a number of ways.

More generally, the decisions that we have to take as part of the budget revision process reflect changes that are taking place in-year. Indeed, the context in which all budget decisions will have to be taken is incredibly challenging—not just for the Scottish Government, but for the other devolved Administrations, too. It is among the most challenging since the reconvening of this Parliament nearly a quarter of a century ago. That means that we have to take difficult decisions to ensure that we can deliver our key priorities and meet the demands that emerge in-year, as I touched on, and to ensure that we can again deliver a balanced budget, as we have done consistently, previously.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Tom Arthur

We are also working with partners, and we continue to engage with COSLA. We will continue to monitor the situation in-year and, based on our understanding to date, decisions will be taken in the budget on allocations for the next financial year. We of course remain absolutely committed to ensuring that we support those who have come from Ukraine to Scotland.