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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

It is important to remember that supplementary estimates come so late in our cycle—I think that it is normally around February—that, were we to be faced with negative consequentials, we would have a very small window in which to try to reconcile them before the end of the financial year. Therefore, as part of prudent budget management, we have to be able to manage any emerging pressures. Unfortunately, that is simply a reflection of the way in which the current system operates.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

Again, that goes back to the issue of delivery. For example, I know that the committee has previously raised the question of the transfer from the health line to education for the delivery of nursing and midwifery. That is a reflection of the earlier point that we made about policy decisions being taken in a portfolio and funding being allocated to the portfolio in which the responsibility for delivery lies.

I do not know whether there is anything further to add to that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

I do not have that specific detail in front of me. Would you be content if I were to write back to the committee about that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

I will confirm with my officials whether we have that information.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

It is fair to say that. That is reflected in our asks for the fiscal framework review. I am sure that the convener has noted that our capital borrowing limits do not take into account inflation. We could improve the situation in a range of ways, and the fiscal framework review provides an opportunity to do that.

To echo what the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy said when she appeared before the committee, I say that I hope that the Government can count on the support of the committee and the Parliament for productive engagement with the UK Government to resolve issues and ensure that our fiscal framework meets our requirements for delivering our priorities.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

I do. As the committee will be aware, our budget resource is allocated to the portfolio that has policy responsibility, and then in year it is transferred where required to the relevant portfolio where delivery takes place. That has been a routine feature of autumn budget revisions for over a decade, as you will be aware, given your tenure on previous finance committees. What we see in the autumn budget revision today is a continuation of that long-standing practice.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

We monitor the situation continuously and we reassess and reappraise budgets as required. That is part of our on-going budget monitoring process.

More generally, my ministerial colleague Ivan McKee engages regularly with the construction sector and other sectors that have been especially impacted by the increasing costs of materials and by supply-chain challenges. He is working in a practical way to help to resolve matters.

As part of our on-going budget monitoring process, we take account of all such factors.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

Yes, because of the role that local authorities play in the delivery of education. Education is the policy lead, but the money goes to local government for the delivery, so it goes to the local government line to be allocated to local government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

Yes, that is correct. If I remember correctly, that money might have been transferred to the net zero, energy and transport portfolio to better align with our energy policies. Is that correct, Scott?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Tom Arthur

The autumn budget revision is retrospective. Clearly, there can be issues around when funds are drawn down, as and when required, but this is general funding to support our health service, as itemised in the supporting document that was provided. It is for the whole range of measures that are required to support the health service as we continue to face the challenges that Covid-19 presents.