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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am very interested in the potential of hydrogen.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Therefore, meeting climate change targets is not, as far as you are aware or concerned, a reason to not go ahead with those projects.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Your point about the Acorn project has been made previously by your colleagues. It sounds as though there will be a shortage not of jobs but of people.

Do you, as a former Minister for Further Education, Higher Education and Science, think that the education system as a whole, from schooling through to further and higher education, is geared up enough to ensure that young people go on pathways to new emerging technologies and other sectors? Are you confident that we will be able to deliver at least part of what we need through the right education system that is ready to provide that supply of people?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is helpful—thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That is the production of hydrogen, but where will it be used? For example, can it be used in domestic boilers for heating? What would it require to do that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

We might want to keep an eye on that.

I think that we are all agreed, or we all understand, the need for just transition around energy, because of the impact on key areas of the energy sector from the changes and how the sector might shift in Scotland. However, we have mentioned other sectors such as housing and agriculture. I am a partner in a farming business, and I can see the changes that are already being made. In housing, we need to build more houses and we need to provide more homes for people. In agriculture, we have spent many years incorporating environmental issues in farming practices, but we now see food prices increasing and pressure on supply. How will those perhaps conflicting interests impact on the work to deliver a just transition and on your work and recommendations?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The issue of who has inherited trees is probably less of a concern in places such as Orkney and Shetland, where I am from. I am sure that the local sectors would welcome a visit, because those are important issues. I am also interested in a freedom of information request to find out about that unparliamentary language, so that we get a good honest appraisal of your thoughts. [Laughter.] However, I will leave it there for now. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning to both the witnesses. Before I go on to my main points, I want to ask about fuel poverty and the issues around owner-occupiers and social housing. I represent the Highlands and Islands, which includes Lewis, which you mentioned, as well as Orkney and Shetland, where there are high levels of fuel poverty. As you mentioned, there is frustration about the huge amount of renewables generation in those areas.

One issue that has come up in my time as an MSP has been a lack of clarity on how owner-occupiers can access support. There are lots of different pots, and there are issues related to income and health, the age of houses and all sorts of other things. Particularly in relation to fuel poverty but perhaps other areas, how important will it be to have clarity, a streamlined process, easy access to the right information and good signposting if we are to meet the targets?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Another area in which there have been concerns is the involvement of small and medium-sized enterprises, and particularly how we engage with small businesses. Will you talk more about concerns that you have about that? How important is that issue?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Historically, with areas such as energy efficiency measures, the focus has tended to be on larger organisations that can deliver projects or initiatives Scotland-wide. However, obviously, encouraging small businesses to play their role in reducing energy use and the like will be key to meeting some of the wider targets. How do we encourage small businesses to be involved? How can they be engaged and play a role in that?