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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Economic Outlook

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The issue that has been raised is about what we want the Scottish Government to do in terms of its competencies to help deal with current economic uncertainty, including the cost of living crisis and the like.

I will not ask what you want John Swinney to say tomorrow, but can you outline some of the areas that are within the competence of the Scottish Parliament in which the Scottish Government can act to deal with the impact of the challenges that we face over the next few years?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Economic Outlook

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Professor Chadha, if you have anything to add to that, your thoughts would be helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you, minister. It is a really quick question. There has been an issue in Orkney about a lack of meter installers, which is holding back house building and means that there are not enough people to install smart meters. Has that come across your desk? What opportunity might there be for you to become involved in training more meter installers? I do not know whether you are aware of that issue.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Domestic boilers might be ruled out. In that case, people would be making decisions about whether they should go to another form of renewables. However, there might be potential for domestic boilers to run on hydrogen. The difficulty is that we do not have the detail yet, although lots of people are talking about the potential for its use in agriculture and other industries. I am interested because there is a lack of clarity despite all the positivity about it.

You have talked about 300,000 jobs. It would be good to know where those might be.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That would be helpful.

We have talked about the opportunities of the just transition. In previous such schemes or processes, there have been many opportunities for big business and perhaps fewer for small and medium-sized enterprises to take advantage of what is happening. How will you ensure that SMEs take advantage of the opportunities of the just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The need for the just transition and to hit climate change targets are not reasons for the Government not to go ahead and deliver those projects.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I have met representatives from a number of sectors recently, and they are all talking about skills and about delivering. I know that you said that it was mentioned in a previous report, but we are talking about 300,000 jobs. There are skills shortages in various sectors, including construction, aerospace, defence and some financial services. How will we ensure that we have enough people to train up in those sectors? How will we deliver those jobs?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning, minister. Before I come to my main questions, I will ask about hydrogen. I think that you have talked about 5GW of potential production and 300,000 potential jobs. Where will hydrogen be used? Will you give us some detail on where it can be used in business and domestic settings?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Are you meeting the Federation of Small Businesses and chambers of commerce? Are they raising with you any concerns about the approach that is being taken? What is their opinion?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I will go back to what we talked about before. My colleague Graham Simpson talked about the transport side and Fiona Hyslop asked you about your role in Government. You talked about mainstreaming just transition in Government and bilateral meetings with colleagues. As the just transition minister, do you see any conflict or contradiction between meeting Scotland’s climate change targets around decarbonising and delivering on manifesto commitments such as road improvements, road upgrades and work on the A9 and A96 roads, which you will be very aware of as the MSP for Moray? Do you see a contradiction between wanting to decarbonise and meeting those commitments?