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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I recognise that providing for an ageing population is an important part of it. One projection from the Scottish Fiscal Commission is depopulation, particularly in rural areas and in the Highlands and Islands. In projections to 2043-44, all Highlands and Islands council areas will see their populations fall. That is a mid-term approach, but there are already concerns. There has been a lack of investment in infrastructure such as the A9 and ferries, and people feel very distant from services. If you want a population to stay in rural areas, you need maternity services. We have had a number of debates recently in the Parliament about the need to provide such things. How can you, over the next few years, reverse the feeling among people—certainly those in our remote areas such as the Highlands and Islands—that services are further away from them than they were previously?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

May I quickly ask a question on that point? When you talk about net inward migration, who are those people? Are they over the age of 65? How are they made up?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Focus on the question I asked about your area of responsibility.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay. Can I look to the longer term? National Records of Scotland projected that Scotland’s population will fall by 400,000 over the next 50 years. A fiscal sustainability report by the SFC showed that the proportion of Scots aged over 65 is expected to increase from 22 per cent in 2026-27 to 31 per cent by 2072-73. Obviously, that will impact on demand for public services. It will also impact on participation rates, productivity and labour supply. What expectations do you have? Do you accept those projections from the Scottish Fiscal Commission? What expectations do you have of how that will impact spending and tax?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I certainly agree about housing, but, across the region that I represent, the picture of what is available is still very mixed. I agree that it is about building high-quality housing, which will reduce some of the costs for people.

My last question is about the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s projections on funding. It is looking at funding increasing from £54 billion in 2027-28 to £177 billion, with the block grant increasing considerably as part of that. Do you recognise that? How can you make sure that, where new taxes are being delivered, they work to complement that increase in the block grant?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am conscious of time, so I will just ask: is it the case that you are not ruling out further payments to Ferguson’s due to further increases in costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

As a chain, you can probably recover over a longer period when there are bad nights in one venue. Do you worry for small independent pubs, bars and restaurants?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Have there been discussions about the need to find new ways of generating revenue for the scheme?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Is that something else that is being looked at?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Jamie Halcro Johnston

During this meeting, your colleagues have said that they will provide further information. We talked about period 1, and you said that four months of information are available. Was that not available when the information was requested for this meeting?