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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak to amendment 143, in the name of Colin Smyth, and to raise the concerns of my colleague Stephen Kerr, who unfortunately cannot be here today.

Amendment 143 represents a deliberate and targeted attempt to compromise rural businesses that rely on grouse shooting as part of their income stream. Given the body of evidence that demonstrates the benefits of muirburn that is carried out by grouse moor managers for diverse forms of moorland wildlife, it seems counterintuitive to remove the primary motivation for undertaking such activity in the first place. Moreover, moorland game includes species such as black grouse, which is a red-list species of conservation concern whose populations are now largely confined to moorland that is managed for grouse shooting, partly because of the muirburn that is undertaken to benefit moorland game on such landholdings.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That discussion highlighted some of the intentions behind the bill, but it is difficult to have much confidence in how they will be practically implemented. I will press the amendment on Stephen Kerr’s behalf. Perhaps there could be further engagement between the minister and Mr Kerr on those areas.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That point might have more standing, had there not been cuts when times were better, too.

When you were here in January, I asked you about Business Gateway. Will you clarify the support for that? I apologise if I missed this in the large number of papers that we received for this meeting, but can you advise whether Government support is going into Business Gateway? If so, how is that going? Why is it not identified in the budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

On the general principle of ring fencing, if the Scottish Government can take ring-fenced money and use it across its budgets, why should local councils not take ring-fenced money from the Scottish Government and use it across their budgets? What is the principal difference there?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Okay—thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I want to go back to the issues around the enterprise bodies and economic growth. When you appeared before the committee in January, I asked you about the cuts to the budgets for Highlands and Islands Enterprise and South of Scotland Enterprise, and you suggested that they would focus their attention on key priorities. You also talked about key things that matter, key priorities for delivery, key interventions and key sectors for growth. Earlier, in response to the convener, you talked about the enterprise agencies prioritising funding and taking a careful and targeted approach.

However, we still do not know the detail of what you think their priorities and key focuses will be. Their budgets have been cut. What are you looking for them to deliver and what will they now be unable to deliver, given your statement about their important role in driving economic growth?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I would hope that they would be doing things to the best of their ability anyway.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I want to move on to the rural affairs budget and agriculture funding, and at this point, I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests in relation to agriculture.

You do not mention this issue in your response, because although we mentioned it in our report, we did not make a recommendation on it. Cuts have been made to the rural affairs budget, and the £33 million of ring-fenced agriculture funding that was identified as part of the Bew review has not been allocated back to the budget. Do you know yet when it will be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I apologise for interrupting, but do you have a timescale for when that funding has to be returned by?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

But you have reduced funding in the rural affairs budget. You argue that we cannot find a use for that money in the rural affairs budget, but you have cut that budget.

On the point that I was really asking about, why should a local authority that receives ring-fenced funding from the Scottish Government for certain parts of its public service delivery not say, “If the Scottish Government can use ring-fenced funding for what it wants to do, why shouldn’t we do the same, given the budget pressures that we are under?”?