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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Mr Marks, I have two questions for you. Over the past few years, we have seen the minutes of Covid gold command meetings not being recorded; legal advice from the Salmond inquiry not published, and then published but not in full; and emails relating to decisions on Ferguson Marine lost or not found, then searched for and suddenly found. Minute taking and the recording of information have not been strong points of the Scottish Government. Are you confident that that has improved—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Ferguson Marine is a very good example. If there is a concern that the cost is going to go up, how quickly is that identified and reported to ministers?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thanks for that.

I want to touch quickly on a couple of other areas. The first question is perhaps for Lesley Fraser. How do you measure productivity in the civil service, and how has it improved or not over the last few years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

And in certain areas, has it improved or stood still?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Are there any cases where they might not be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I suppose that there is a question about outcomes, because the better known a commissioner is, the more work they might have to do and the higher their budgets might need to be. They could almost be victims of their own success, to quote a phrase. Audrey, could you give us some thoughts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I have a quick question on that point, Clare. We have talked about stakeholders a lot. We can appreciate why stakeholders and organisations may support commissioners, but is there any evidence of the general public’s perception of commissioners, what they do and how effective they are? Is public awareness of commissioners’ roles and responsibilities important in terms of their success?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that they were not going be revised down, but Mr Thomson said that the £5 million figure was “a surprise”. Obviously, that was when they were presented as evidence to the committee. That was not in November or September, when there were discussions. It seems that there was no real understanding that the figures were going to be so substantially increased.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I appreciate that, but you have told us that you did not just sit back and accept the figures. You wanted your officials to interrogate the figures—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I will go back to some of the previous questions. The bill was introduced on 6 June 2023, and at the September Scottish police consultative forum, concerns were raised that the costs for Police Scotland would increase. Were you advised of those concerns or those potential increased costs at that time?