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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 February 2026
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

Thank you, convener, for indulging me. Following on from Alex Rowley, I think that part of preparedness is about the ability of our healthcare system to cope with what comes down the line. If the same thing happened again, I fear for those on the front line if they were asked to step into the breach the way that they were last time. As part of the work that you are doing, will you look at how we look after our healthcare professionals?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning, Professor Morris and Professor Evans. I am the data geek.

When we look at preparedness and try to understand what that means in practical terms, it is about understanding the threat and our ability to deploy solutions to protect the public. It is also about the ability to gather, assess and deploy data. Initially, that would be international. When we look back at what happened with Covid, it seemed that we watched—almost with morbid fascination—as it moved inexorably across the world towards us, and yet when it got here, we were not ready. We also need to look at data across all our health boards and the ability to tap into that data on the front line, almost in real time.

I am interested in hearing your thoughts on where we are with both of those platforms, if you like. During the years that I have been in Parliament, a recurring theme has been that we do not yet have a healthcare platform that allows us to pick up data from around the country in real time. What are your thoughts on those points?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

Working internationally means that we have to share data with other countries. Do you agree that the opportunity here is to create an environment in Scotland where, with only 6 million people, we can be agile with our data platforms?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

So, what do we have to do?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

We are talking about working across health boards, but there are only 6 million people in Scotland.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

The other thing that struck me was that international collaboration and co-operation in a pandemic seems absolutely logical. If we are going to tackle a pandemic in the future, we need international preparedness. We can be as prepared as we like in isolation, but if the rest of the world is struggling, it is inevitable that we will struggle as well. Where are we, globally, on international preparedness?

On the back of that, I am reminded of the scramble for vaccines and how, all of a sudden, international cooperation broke down. We could say that we were the winners in that, but I do not think that anybody is a winner in situations of that kind. Where are we with international collaboration?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Standing Committee on Pandemic Preparedness

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Brian Whittle

Do I have time for one more question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Brian Whittle

Thank you, convener. What we are discussing here are the practicalities of the scheme—we are looking at people’s ability to get their deposits back and to recycle product. In that circumstance, neither of those things would have happened.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Brian Whittle

Good morning. It is good to see you again, Mr Harris. I was considering our conversation of last week and the implications of what you had to say. I am looking at it practically. Since then, I happened to meet up with constituents of mine—an elderly couple who get their groceries delivered by the supermarket. They already recycle. They have a glass bin, a plastics bin, a general waste bin and a garden waste bin. Those are collected by the council. They will be unable to return the items that will be subject to a 20p charge, which will no longer be collected by the council. Obviously, they will be out of pocket.

Given that, as you said, you will be ramping things up from the start, a significant number of people will be in a similar situation and unable to take part in the deposit return scheme. I recognise your role as an administrator, but is it not the case that the practical realities of the scheme are such that people in that situation—which includes those who, as my colleague Mr Ewing said, are probably among the poorest in society—will have to pay for the scheme, as it ends up? They are the last people in the line.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Brian Whittle

Finally from me, how do we take the knowledge that we are gathering on long Covid and educate our community about what long Covid looks like? The other thing that we hear a lot is that long Covid numbers are an estimate, because many people who have symptoms that could be long Covid do not come forward. How do we furnish our communities with that knowledge so that people know to come forward?