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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 December 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

On that point, if a public authority were to be added to the list, that would be subject to the negative procedure. However, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee suggested that that subordinate legislation should be subject to the affirmative procedure in order to allow for extra scrutiny. What are your views on that?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

I apologise for interrupting you, Rachael, but could you please keep your supplementary question brief? We are fast running out of time.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

I would appreciate your doing that, because the issue came up in conversation. Such bodies deliver a public service through public funding, but they do so at arm’s length. It would be interesting to find out how their situation might be dealt with.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

Just to clarify that, the health boards have said that they agree with you that there will not be financial implications from producing a plan, have they? My fear is that the plans may be restricted, given a health board’s budget. The board might like to put something in its plan yet be unable to implement it, even though the plan suggests that it should be implemented. Are you saying that health boards have responded that they do not have any concerns about the costs or the resources that are required to put a plan together and implement it in the future?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

So, at the moment, the boards are not responding, and they cannot really respond because they do not know what the plan might entail. It is not that they do not think that there is any cost; they are unwilling to say what the costs might be because of the uncertainty of the implications in the plan.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

Professor Mary Brennan suggested that the bill’s credibility would be damaged if it did not explicitly include the right to food and that,

“as Robin Gourlay requested, the commitment to, and effects of, delivering the right to food”

should be

“explicit in the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, 19 January 2022; c 23-4.]

Will that be the case? Will there be enough in the bill to deliver the right to food, as suggested by Mary Brennan, Robin Gourlay and other witnesses, without waiting for the human rights bill?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

All of that sounds very positive, cabinet secretary. You are listening and you want the process to be open and transparent. How do you respond to concern that the consultation requirements give greater weight to the views of the Scottish Government than they do to the views of stakeholders and the general public? For example, relevant authorities are to be consulted after, not before, the Government drafts the good food nation plan and after, not before, the review of the plan after five years. Why was that decision taken?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Finlay Carson

We will move to questions. We have around 90 minutes, and I will kick off. In a nutshell, what do you consider a good food nation to be?