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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

That brings us to the end of the session. I very much thank the witnesses for their contributions, which have been very welcome and will inform our work programme. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow a change of witnesses.

10:45 Meeting suspended.  

10:52 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

There was an awful lot in that. Do we have time to do it all before we see a bill go through the process and become an act by 2023? Are we already too late?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

The regulations do not appear to do anything to halt the trading up of kittens, which often happens when individual kittens are offered for resale on the internet at a higher price, with people posing as the owners of the parents of the cat, as if they have bred the kittens. Do you foresee any further amendments to the licensing regulations to clamp down on that form of trading?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

We will move on to questions from Ariane Burgess on climate change and biodiversity laws.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

That completes consideration of the affirmative instrument. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending today. We now move into private session.

12:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:20.  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

I have a quick supplementary question. We are not self-sufficient in red meat, so we import quite a percentage. If our land-based industries are going to struggle to get to net zero, is there a risk in reducing agricultural production, particularly in the red meat industry, to hit our targets in the UK? An unintended consequence could be that we offshore beef and lamb production to places where the carbon footprint is bigger, which could ultimately result in a slower global transition to net zero. Has that risk been calculated in the plans for rural support and, in particular, agricultural production?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

You touched on regional land use partnerships. I am a bit confused about them, and it appears that you, too, are not quite certain what the outcomes of the partnerships should be. What will be the measures of success or otherwise of the pilots? You touched on whether policies need to apply to a particular farmer, a particular sector or a farming system. You mentioned the south of Scotland, where we already have a lot of trees, but the milk fields of Scotland are in the south-west, where the cow sector is very important; we also have world-important peatlands and so on. What would be your measure of success for the regional land use partnerships? What are the expected outcomes, and how will the work of the partnerships feed into future agriculture policy and rural policy? I put that question to Davy McCracken, but I will also bring in Mike Robinson to address Jenni Minto’s questions.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

Yes, thank you.

I will bring in Mike Robinson and then Beatrice Morrice on the same questions.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

I am sorry—we have lost Mike Robinson. I invite Beatrice Morrice to come in until Mike Robinson’s connection settles down.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Farming and Crofting

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Finlay Carson

We will certainly take that issue away. The point about not leaving some of your best players on the bench is a very good one when it comes to women in agriculture. It is a good point to finish on.

I have a very brief final question. We have touched on budgets, LFASS and so on, but a seismic shift is coming for farming and rural areas, given the challenges ahead. Do we need additional funding to bring forward such policies and to pump prime new projects? Given that we hear so much about the health benefits of better biodiversity in the environment that we live in, and that land managers and farmers have a big part to play in that, does the sector need to have an increased budget? Do you think that your arguments will be listened to and that such budgets will be delivered in the future?