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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. I welcome to the meeting Emma Harper MSP, who is substituting for Karen Adam. Before we begin, I remind anyone using electronic devices to please switch them to silent.

Our first item of business is consideration of the 2024-25 Scottish budget. I welcome Mairi Gougeon, Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, and her officials, George Burgess, director of agriculture and rural economy; Erica Clarkson, head of islands policy; and Karen Morley, head of finance, agriculture and rural economy. We also have David Signorini, director of marine at the Scottish Government.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Cabinet secretary, could you give us a little bit more information about what the £1.5 million revenue funding element of the islands plan budget is?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Yes, but we are looking at this budget, not future budgets—we will probably deal with that when we look at the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill. We have seen a dramatic cut in the agriculture budget, but the majority of that has come about because of the Scottish Government’s priorities, not because there has been a dramatic cut in the UK budget, which has been the same for the past three years—apart from the £27 million increase after the Bew review. That was the point I was trying to make. Maybe you can come back to us on that.

I am interested in pillar 1 payments, which are important because they support beef, sheep and fruit and vegetable producers. There has been an 18.3 per cent cut in those payments, and it has been suggested that that is “reflecting forecast demand”. What exactly does it mean when you say that that reduction is “reflecting forecast demand”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Thank you. That was helpful.

I call Rachael Hamilton—[Interruption.] My apologies—Kate Forbes is joining us remotely and I did not see her waving. I will bring you in now, Kate.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Jim Fairlie has a supplementary.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

I call Ariane Burgess.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Cabinet secretary, that concludes our evidence session. Thank you very much for your attendance and for that of your officials.

I suspend the meeting until 11.30.

11:27 Meeting suspended.  

11:31 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Ariane Burgess first.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

I do not see anywhere in the agriculture budget where there has been an increase. It is a decrease right across the board. Nothing has increased.

My understanding is that £620 million of ring-fenced money came from the UK Government, which was £595 million—or thereabouts—plus £25.7 million Bew money. The Scottish Government topped that up, giving a total budget of around £680 million. Has the UK Government’s contribution, which is ring fenced, decreased?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Finlay Carson

Thank you. As there are no further comments, that concludes today’s business.

Meeting closed at 11:33.