Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 5931 contributions

|

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. That is helpful.

We will explore the code of practice in more detail, but, before we move on, I want to ask about one thing that I am uncertain about. Will the bill deliver more than what we have at the moment? It appears that the only obligation on the Government as the bill stands is to create a code. The Government can create a code of practice at the moment but has chosen not to do that. The bill would force the Government to do that but, as with everything else in the bill, it says that the Government “may” legislate or do something. Does the bill go far enough to ensure that all the concerns that we have just heard are addressed legally?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

That takes us quite nicely to the subject of certificates, with questions from Kate Forbes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Without traceability, none of the things that we are talking about will be effective. Could the argument be made that what we need is simply a mandatory registration scheme for puppies to be microchipped? That would provide full traceability with all the required information, including the name of the breeder, where the dogs were bred and where they have been housed. Would that not just circumnavigate the bill, which does not place any requirements on the Government at all? We would go back to the good old days, if you like, when we had dog licences, but that dog licence scheme could be on a nationwide database to allow better checks and better scrutiny of breeders—whether they were puppy farmers, if you like, breeding multiple times or had small-scale unregistered litters, as at the moment. Would that not be a solution, rather than all these little bits in another bill? Are there any comments?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I will bring in Holly Conway and then Jamie Halcro Johnston, who has a question that follows on from that point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 23rd meeting in 2023 of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee. Apologies have been received from Jim Fairlie and Rachael Hamilton. I welcome Jamie Halcro Johnston, who attends as a substitute. Before we begin, I ask Jamie Halcro Johnston to declare any relevant interests.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Would anybody else like to come in on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

You have mentioned the code, and referred to people wanting to see the puppy’s mother and the use of Airbnbs. However, the code would not make a person liable for anything. At the end of the day, it is just a document that you could pay regard to but that you do not have to pay regard to. What teeth does the bill have to put in place some of the safeguards that you have suggested?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We will probably discuss those issues in more detail as we go on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

To clarify, you referred to regulations, but can I just check what regulations you are talking about and whether they actually apply in Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Before we move to the next question from members, I would like to ask one. It would appear that the important point is that buyers and sellers understand what is good for animal welfare. Sitting round the table are representatives from five animal welfare charities. One of the main aspects of their jobs is raising public awareness, which includes telling people how they should buy and look after puppies. Should we not just put a bit of pressure on the Government to update its code and then provide funding for you guys to do the public awareness bit? Ultimately, that is what you are good at. Is there not more chance of the puppy purchaser out in the street listening to Dogs Trust, Battersea or the Scottish SPCA than there is of their listening to the Government? Should we not just be looking for the Government to do the right thing by updating the code, without being forced to go through creating legislation, and then providing funding to ensure that public awareness campaigns are effective?