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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

I beg your pardon. I am sorry—I did interrupt you. My apologies.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. That is helpful.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on to the theme of fisheries, and the first question is from Karen Adam.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 24th meeting of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee in 2023. Before we begin, I remind those members who are using electronic devices to please switch them to silent. We have received apologies from Jim Fairlie.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 3 in private. Are we agreed to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

We touched on it in the previous committee meeting. The Bew review suggested that there was an injustice in agricultural funding across the whole of the UK, and that was addressed by Scotland getting an additional £60 million, or thereabouts, over two years. The Scottish Government got that money and it was ring fenced, but what happened to it? What is the timescale for that money coming back into the agriculture budget? Will it be backdated?

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay, but it is clear from what you have said previously that £680 million is ring fenced. It is either the agriculture budget or it is Bew money, which you have said was ring fenced. If that ring fencing is intact next year, we will have £680 million, but there might be savings from that. The cost saving that you had previously was the £33 million that you said would come back to the budget. The figure that we are looking at is £680 million, but that would be subject to money being taken out of that budget for overall Government savings.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Which is approximately £646 million.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you—that makes it a bit clearer.

Before we move on to fisheries, Alasdair Allan has a supplementary question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Finlay Carson

Do you have a float or a contingency fund? Historically, the European Union was pretty good at fining us. We are not talking about that specific case, because it is something that happens on an annual basis. We know that farmers get penalised, and those penalties can go back as far as 10 years. The fines go into a pot of money. If there is to be a UK Government or a European fine, where would that money come from? Would it come out of next year’s budget? Is there a contingency for those situations?