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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Galloway and Ayrshire National Park Proposal

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I know that Mark Ruskell and Emma Harper want to come in. I will bring in Elena Whitham first, then pick up supplementary questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Galloway and Ayrshire National Park Proposal

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Emma Harper has a supplementary question, and then we will hear from Mark Ruskell.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Galloway and Ayrshire National Park Proposal

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

If it is the case that national parks are performing as well as the Government believes that they are and that they are delivering what the Government believes that they have been set out to deliver, why was all that information allowed to influence the decision of the people in Galloway?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Galloway and Ayrshire National Park Proposal

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. As we have no further questions, that concludes our evidence session. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for their time this morning.

10:39 Meeting continued in private until 11:36.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Our second item of business is an evidence session with the Scottish Government as part of our consideration of the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. Today, we will take evidence on part 3 of the bill. I welcome Mairi Gougeon, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, and her officials from the Scottish Government: Nicola Bradley-Martin, a solicitor; Brittany Brown, the policy lead; Jenny Gibbons, team leader, national parks; and Felicity Hollands, deputy bill team leader.

We have allocated around an hour to discuss part 3 and, as usual, we have quite a few questions to get through, so I ask for succinct questions and answers.

I will kick off. What difference to national parks do you think that the amendments to the statutory purposes that are being suggested will make?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Finlay Carson

The 2000 act says that one of the aims of a national park is to

“promote sustainable use of the natural resources of the area”,

but the bill talks about promoting the

“sustainable management and use of the area’s natural resources”.

What does that mean in practice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

We have heard conflicting evidence about non-regression. In our first evidence session, we heard that current legislation would prevent regression without alignment with the EU. However, we heard SEPA witnesses say in evidence last week that they thought that there should be a non-regression clause and almost all the NGOs suggested that there was a need to include some provision on non-regression. There is certainly some uncertainty about whether the bill currently deals with that and whether there is legislation that would provide safeguards. Your response today sounds as though the bill would just give us more flexibility. There is uncertainty about whether there is already legislation that deals with non-regression and whether it is not addressed in the bill in order to give flexibility. That is not clear.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Before we move on to our next questions, which are on the register of authorised persons, Emma Harper has a question about data.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Grand.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Emma Harper has a supplementary question on that.