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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

That is exactly the point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

It is quite clear that the Scottish Government has responsibilities in relation to biodiversity targets and good environmental status, but the two Governments have separate goals in relation to the marine environment. How can all of that be pulled together so that you can discharge your responsibilities when it comes to biodiversity targets offshore?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

It would certainly give a level of comfort if the criteria that you will use—you have said how you will decide how the secondary legislation regulations will be taken through—were included in the bill. I would welcome you considering including those criteria in the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much. That completes our questioning. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending.

I suspend the meeting for 10 minutes to allow for a changeover of witnesses and a short comfort break.

11:40 Meeting suspended.  

11:48 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

On that basis, what is your definition of public interest and what the public-interest test would be? Whether it is in the south of Scotland or in the Highlands, what is your understanding of the term “public interest”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Why would that not be in a code of practice or set out in secondary legislation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Yes. I am talking about deer management groups—landowners and so on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. If you do not mind my coming in here, Rhoda, I will continue. Is there not a conflict of interest if NatureScot—which ultimately will be the decision maker—has a role on the advisory panels?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Why the change? What cannot be achieved on the advisory panels with NatureScot as an observer?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

The difference is that NatureScot would be moving from its current position as an observer to having a formal role on advisory panels. That is where the concerns were, but you have addressed that.

I call Tim Eagle.