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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Mercedes Villalba is next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I am a bit confused. You said that a definition would not appear in the code of practice because that might lead to uncertainty, but then you went on to say that NatureScot would set it out in the code of practice. What exactly is the position—and, again, what is your definition of public interest? Given that you are the minister, it is not really about your personal view; it is about the Government’s view on what that public interest is.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Just to be clear, that context is in the explanatory notes and the definition will be in the code of practice.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

The deer groups were concerned that, if, as you have suggested, the code of practice sets out what the public interest is, based on the public’s expectations, there would be a lack of resources to deliver that public interest.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I think that there is a concern that some rural communities, particularly in lowland Scotland, would be overlooked and that public expectations would favour centralised or conservation-led priorities rather than local livelihoods.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

The code of practice will set out what the public interest is, and you are saying that there will not be one overall definition of public interest. The issue is that, in the south, deer practitioners are concerned that their views on the public interest will be overshadowed by what conservation groups and others who have a different perception of what public interest is say—they talked about central belt bias.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I would like to get on the record your understanding of the role of advisory panels.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

What, then, can NatureScot achieve as a panel member?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Finlay Carson

I call Beatrice Wishart.