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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Go for it, Tim.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Welcome back. Moving on to the fourth item on the agenda, I welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, the Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy, and the following Scottish Government officials: John Mouat, head of protected seas; Conor Nangle, offshore marine protected area delivery lead; and Charlotte Altass, offshore marine protected area policy manager. We have around an hour for this discussion, and we have quite a few questions, too, so I again remind everybody to try to keep their questions and answers as succinct as possible.

Before we begin, I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary.

No doubt, you or your officials heard the evidence in the previous two sessions, which appeared to suggest that the consultation process had been well carried out, with most of the stakeholders feeling that their contributions had played some part in shaping the regulations that we see now. I might know the answer to this already, but my question is: why did the Scottish Government opt for zonal management in most of the MPAs, despite evidence from the JNCC, and NatureScot in some instances, recommending whole-site closures?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

You have talked about adaptive management and different types of fishing having different impacts, but can you set out your criteria for determining that there should be a whole-site closure rather than a zonal approach, which appeared to be universally welcomed in some areas? What did you look at? What was the process of deciding that an area should have a full closure?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

We will move on a little in our line of questions. If you do not mind, we will come back to that in further questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

A presumption for sustainable use, as long as—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

—it does not compromise the objectives.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

You heard what the AFPO representative David Anderson said, and the point was also made in AFPO’s written submission. He was quite clear that the engagement with the mobile gear sector was initiated in 2014 but that it was not until after Brexit—post-2021—that the static gear sector was alerted and it was suggested to Marine Scotland that it should be engaged with. According to the organisation’s evidence, it has had only two meetings, over a period of two years, since 2021. That contradicts what you have said.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

That touches on my next question. We have data collection for one purpose, but there is also data collection in relation to compliance. Are you considering further implementation of REM across vessels for compliance reasons?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Before we hear from the rest of the panel, Phil, you touched on the fact that you, Calum Duncan and other stakeholders have been involved in this process right from the start. We often hear the Government talk about co-design and co-development, but, in your view, does the instrument in front of us reflect the discussions you have had throughout the process of developing the instrument?