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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

We must remember the work of Nicola Sturgeon and, of course, Jeane Freeman, Jason Leitch and Gregor Smith. They put work in every day when we were witnessing on our television screens what was happening with the pandemic around the globe.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

I was reflecting on the fact that the Scottish Government has a policy for mobile phones and records management. It says:

“Mobile messaging does not change your responsibility within Scottish Government to maintain complete and comprehensive records of key conversations and decisions.”

All that information is already there.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

Both inquiries will help to determine what could have been done differently and will serve to improve Government decision making in any future pandemic, viral outbreak or other crisis. We want to ensure that we focus on how we save lives and prevent suffering in the future. As the First Minister said, the Scottish Government will examine and consider closely the recommendations that the Scottish and UK public inquiries make. We need to let the inquiries progress. That would be the normal thing to do.

Contrary to what the Conservative motion states, the Scottish Government has fully complied with both inquiries and will continue to do so. Scottish ministers, including the First Minister and Deputy First Minister, and officials have already provided a large volume of information. Members have outlined that. The Scottish Government has provided 25 detailed corporate statements and has been involved in the request for 89 individual statements in support of module 2A of the UK inquiry.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

In contrast to the UK Government’s attempts to limit the requests for information from the chair of the UK inquiry, Baroness Hallett, the Scottish Government has already committed to fully co-operating with the UK inquiry.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Sheila Duffy will know that Dr Jonathan Coutts came to a meeting of the cross-party group on lung health, which I co-convene. We had a presentation on vaping, especially among young people. Given the targeting, I am really concerned about a raft of new interstitial lung diseases—I raise that because I have close links with Phyllis Murphie, who is a nurse consultant in respiratory medicine and who happens to be my sister.

We have explored future lung ill health among young people. Dr Coutts talked about the alarming rise in the number of teens who are using e-cigarettes, from 3 to 43 per cent, which has reversed a lot of the work to eliminate nicotine exposure and then addiction. Whether or not use is illicit, how concerned are you that young people are being exposed directly to nicotine, which will harm them?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Do we need to revise how we support people to quit smoking? The NHS “Quit Your Way Scotland” service is part of that support.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

I said interstitial lung disease, not pulmonary fibrosis, and I was not talking about nicotine but the other inhalable substances or components that are in there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Good morning, everybody. I want to pick up on a question from Ivan McKee about data. As a registered nurse, I understand that when somebody comes into the hospital through a medical assessment unit they are asked, “Do you smoke—yes or no?” If it is yes, they are offered a smoking cessation pathway. Is that question extended to ask, “Do you smoke or vape?”, with smoking cessation then offered in that way?

Also, what do we do in paediatric admissions? It is rather difficult to ask paediatric patients that question, especially if their mum or dad is sitting there. For example, when they come in with shortness of breath, the first thing that we think is that it might be an asthma attack, but it might not be; it might be as a result of high doses of nicotine in vaping, for instance. Are we pursuing that now? I understand that people in some health boards ask about that, but others do not.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Jonathan Coutts’s work shows that a lot of companies quote research by Nutt et al that says that e-cigarettes are 95 per cent safer than standard cigarettes, but that study involved 12 people who were invited to take part and it was not peer reviewed. Two of the people who participated also had financial links with the vaping industry. Will you jog my memory on the argument that e-cigarettes are 95 per cent safer?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Is there a danger that a flavour ban could deter adult smokers from switching to vapes? I know that encouraging people to stop smoking is very complicated. If we banned flavours, would that make it harder for people to stop smoking?