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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 24 September 2026
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Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

As you have all mentioned, data centres have come at speed with our demand for the cloud, ChatGPT and all the rest. Data centres were not considered, for example, when the Parliament passed national planning framework 4, which is the latest iteration of the planning system, and the main policy point—which I do not expect you to get into—was to meet the decarbonisation goals and use the excess energy from renewables. Moreover, a data centre is not classified as a schedule 1 development and therefore does not require an environmental impact assessment. In the light of the lack of definition in relation to green data centres, what are the witnesses’ views on whether the planning system is fit for purpose for the speed of the demand that we will have for energy and grid infrastructure? I will start with Dr Sun.

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

Dr MacIver, given your introductory remarks about decarbonisation and then the countering of that with the fact that data centres use a lot of fossil fuels, what would be your definition of “green data centre”?

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

Matt Magill, there are so many questions around the issues that Dr. Sun has raised, including around heat generation.

Is that part of your energy strategy paper that will come out in, I think, 2027? Will that look at the issues of creating data centres in areas that do not have grid infrastructure but that have wind farms and excess energy? Are you considering how we use the excess heat? Give us a little bit of insight into how NESO will make the strategy reassuring to show the public that it knows what it is doing.

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

My next question is for Matt Magill of NESO. The energy strategy for Scotland that is due to come in is not in place. How is it that speculative applications for data centre development are now in place without that energy strategy? Is that not putting the cart before the horse? Should it not be the other way around?

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

How does that square with the differences between UK energy policy and Scottish energy policy, given that the latter is overlaid with the devolved competence of the Scottish Parliament and its power over planning? At the moment, we are being told that this needs to be expanded; it is being expanded into rural areas in particular and, as a result, speculative applications might well come to rural areas, where we still have individuals who are off-grid. Obviously, that is where the wind farms are, too. We are also talking about bringing down constraint payments and using the excess energy, and the whole thing seems very mixed up to the public. I wonder whether you can provide some clarity as to how you can bring the public along with you, given that they feel as though they are being put upon instead of seeing any advantage to this.

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Data Centres (Energy Use)

Meeting date: 15 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

There is a petition in the Parliament at the moment to introduce a blanket moratorium on planning applications for data centres. Do you have the experience, Matt, of that happening in the UK Parliament? Would it be legally competent, or would it be subject to legal challenge? I am just asking for your direct experience.

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

Before we move on, can I ask Heather Thomson a supplementary question on that point?

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

I will ask another supplementary question, if I may. Is AI part of the current Excel process for public sector procurement?

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

I think that job displacement is already happening in the financial services sector in Scotland. We have seen a forecast of much lower tax revenue—£720 million lower—than was forecast by, I think, the Scottish Fiscal Commission.

Economy, Tourism and Energy Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 8 September 2026

Rachael Hamilton

I do not know whether any of the witnesses knows this, but it seems that there needs to be some sort of review of the procurement process so as to keep up with the advancement of different technologies that are coming into play for buying and selling.