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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

That does not make sense to me because, if predators cannot be controlled, jobs will be lost.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I am sorry, but I am still slightly confused. Regardless of whether there is a proposal for a licensing scheme in front of you, the fact is that you were working on this issue throughout the summer. If you have already done the work, why is that information not available now? For example, are live-capture traps efficient in capturing predators? Is it possible to shoot from live-capture traps in thick cover or challenging topography? Are live-capture traps on a par with humane cable restraints? Has a business and regulatory impact assessment been done in terms of jobs and livelihoods, and what about the impact on ground-nesting birds? Those are the questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Can—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I reiterate that, because the SSPCA does not have full criminal investigation powers, it would not be able to recommend to NatureScot that a licence could be suspended.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

Our papers state that the Scottish Government consultation threw up some issues around the extension of the powers of the SSPCA. It says that there was

“potential conflict between the SSPCA’s campaigning position, on issues such as snaring, and the use of powers to investigate incidents associated with those issues; and perceived lack of accountability for decisions made by charities ... in comparison to police forces”.

Do you share those concerns?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

It is up to the Government to decide what the impact assessment would be. For example, there is evidence that ground-nesting birds might be affected by the proposed Government use of a humane cable restraint. That has already been covered in terms of biodiversity and conservation. We also need to consider how many predators are being captured and how efficient those possibilities are. We need to look at the comparison between each one.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I totally agree, but I have to press the matter. The GWCT found in its work that no fox had been trapped over a number of years, so how will jobs be created? Surely jobs will be lost. You said that jobs will be created.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Rachael Hamilton

It looks as though I am going to do this question to death, as it has already been asked twice by my colleagues. The feedback that we got from stakeholders was that the 2006 code needed to be updated and revised. Indeed, the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission suggested that a solution would be for Scottish ministers to introduce a revised code under the combined authority of the 2006 act. There has, therefore, been considerable evidence that Scottish ministers should consider the issue.

One area that has been discussed is whether we should consider using the mechanisms that are already in place. Given that the committee needs to come to a conclusion on Ms Grahame’s bill, what are your views on using those existing mechanisms? Can you expand on some of the questions that have already been asked and reflect on the evidence that people have given?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Rachael Hamilton

[Inaudible.]—we consider and come to the recommendation that we believe that the code of practice under the 2006 act could be revised or updated. What happens after that? Would Scottish ministers respond in a more detailed fashion? I do not feel that the committee is able to make a decision on whether we need another code of practice at the moment. The code under the 2006 act provides a high level of parliamentary scrutiny, because, if it was revised, it would have to come back to the Parliament for consideration, but the code of practice under Ms Grahame’s bill would not. Can you enlighten us or even possibly commit to writing to us on what might happen if there was a recommendation from this committee to revise the code of practice under the 2006 act?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Rachael Hamilton

I have a supplementary question that follows on from Jim Fairlie’s questions. Given what you said about public awareness, you must have concerns about the awareness of the code of practice under the 2006 act and how effective it is. If you create another code on top of that, will it not just have the same outcome? Failure to comply with the existing code is not an offence, so where is the carrot here? Would the proposed code not be duplication? Would it not just be for show?