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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

When do you expect to get that rich data? Why is there a requirement to monitor the measurements of the lengths and weights of fish in the Scottish pelagic fleet when the fishermen already undertake that themselves for scientific purposes? What has been used by the Scottish Government and Marine Scotland to identify any issues with the data that they currently have?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Well, what are you saying?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I have a quick final question. Cabinet secretary, in the context of the cut of £6.9 million to Marine Scotland’s budget, you said that you were confident that it would be able to track that data and consider it, and that it would have enough compliance officers, and Jane MacPherson also said that there are enough officers across Scotland to deal with that. However, again, that is not what we are hearing. Will you increase the budget for science and compliance if you are trying to achieve more richness of data in future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Thanks, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Just to be clear, that was not in conversations between Marine Scotland and supermarket retailers; the conversations were between the Scottish Government and supermarket retailers.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Cabinet secretary, you have not consulted on the technical specifications, so how do you know that what you ask for in those tech specs is acceptable?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Can I be clear that there was no consultation on the technical specifications? That is what our adviser said.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I asked the question because you will have read the Official Report of the committee meeting last week, when Ian Gatt said:

“It is not very clear in either the SSI or the technical specification what the requirements would be”.—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 24 April 2024; c 10-11.]

In response a question from Karen Adam, he asked for more clarity on that.

Why does the power that the Scottish Government has, even though you have said that it might not be used, apply to pelagic vessels but not to scallop vessels?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Last week, Elspeth Macdonald, of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation, told us:

“I am not aware of any beneficial scientific impacts being generated by the data that has been requested from the part of the fleet that already has the system.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 24 April 2024; c 11]

What scientific benefits do you hope to gain from mandating REM systems?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Okay, so it is more of a wish list rather than the data being used as a reason to bring in those new asks and the SSI.

Last week, there was a lot of discussion about how this needs to be more carrot than stick. I asked whether it was about compliance rather than science, and you said that the data would be “helpful”—that was your word—to the Scottish Government. However, if there are no specifics about what Marine Scotland needs to be looking at in terms of discards or non-target species, how will it be able to do anything with the data or know whether it has the capacity to do anything with it? It would be pointless if the data was gathered and Marine Scotland did not have the capacity and resources to do anything with it. Its budget was cut by £6.9 million. Do you think that Marine Scotland has the ability to scrutinise the data?