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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I will ask for something to be given to the committee. Mr Macleod, you mentioned the Otterburn project. I know that it is possibly something that we can find online, but it could be beneficial for the committee to look at the references to the Otterburn project that relate to this bill. Mr Orr-Ewing, it would be interesting to know whether the RSPB used the Otterburn project as part of your evidence-based approach to management.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

That is an interesting point, because the civil servant said last week that the defence would not be able to be proved. It is therefore a bone of contention.

Penny, would you like to come in?

09:45  

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

We are talking very technically here. A lot of people do not understand why we need to control pests. We have a huge land mass, but most people live in the city. I direct this question to Penny Middleton. What happens on land if rabbits, foxes, mink and other species are not controlled?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I now come to my proper questions. You have all said that different terrains are an issue. Given that there will be a broad range of applications for licences, how will NatureScot understand the number of dogs that should be involved in an action?

Secondly, what happens to the dogs if they are not working? For example, if NatureScot does not understand the density of a forest and it gives a licence for only two dogs to work within that cover, will those dogs get exhausted, which would raise an animal welfare issue? What happens in that instance? What are the practicalities? Do you kill the hounds? What do you do? Are the dogs sent to slaughter? Can we have the absolute raw detail on that, please?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I will ask all my questions in one, but first I want to go back to the definition of a wild mammal. My question is for Barrie Wade. Should the definition be amended to bring in fox and mink? I just want a yes or no answer.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Do any other members of the panel have a view on the Cass review and how important it is in the context of what we are doing in Scotland? It seems not.

12:30  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Good morning, panel. First, I ask witnesses to explain their views on the proposal in the bill to lower the age for a GRC from 18 to 16. I ask the Rev Karen Hendry to start. We have heard that the Church of Scotland agrees with discontinuing mandatory assessments but not with lowering the age from 18 to 16. May I have your views, please?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I want to develop that line of questioning. If, for example, the Government reform went through and all the suggestions and policy reforms were passed in the Parliament, would that make you feel uncomfortable about your position of removing the need for an assessment, given that you do not support the lowering of the age to 16? I accept the arguments that you have made. How would you feel about that? How would the church feel about that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I will extend the question to the other witnesses. Let me ask Fraser Sutherland first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

It is strange how laws and regulations work. After all, you cannot get a credit card, place a bet, get a tattoo or drink alcohol until you are 18. The rules and regulations are strange for 16 to 18-year-olds.

Chris, can I bring you in here?