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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

No—in this country. Obviously, lots more people are accessing the services in gender clinics, and we know that the number of people who want to transition has been increasing. Has the Scottish Government done any work on that potential impact, as it were?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I suppose that it is about ensuring that the exemptions in the 2010 act allow for inclusion, exemption and modification in that circumstance.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Having listened to a lot of witnesses in the private sessions I think, if I am being honest, that they have come to a private session because they feel scared to speak up. The individual whom I mentioned said that they were aware that the person

“decided to ... shop online after experiencing a male in a shop changing room.”

Therefore, there are people with concerns, which you are recognising in your evidence today. I respect that, and I want to be clear about it because, as you said, there are polarised views. With gender recognition reform there must also be recognition that there is fear. I think that you get that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Thanks.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

I have three supplementaries to Pam Gosal’s questions. First, why was the Scottish Government bill team’s first meeting with the committee on 15 March not fully minuted? You probably cannot answer that just now.

Secondly, when you say that we have had plenty of time to scrutinise the bill, how is it that on 17 May, less than 12 hours after the deadline for written submissions—which was midnight on 16 May, with 10,800 short submissions being made—you believed that the committee had had the ability to scrutinise it all? If we look at all the bills that we have passed in the committee, we can see that we have had the most evidence sessions, and probably the most private sessions, on this one, so in response to Karen Adam’s question my question would be: what would the consequences be of not delaying the bill?

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Lastly, on the point that you make about the impact on single-sex safe spaces, we heard evidence from Senator Regina Doherty, who said that two women identifying as men had been housed in Limerick prison after they had been arrested and charged. Are you sympathetic to the concerns of vulnerable women who are housed in prison?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

It would be useful, convener, if we got sight of what that risk assessment is, because Ireland has basically not turned back anyone who has applied for a GRC. Those individuals were given a GRC and there obviously was a risk because they were violent people, but they still got into the women’s prison.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

How many is that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Can you give us some examples?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Who will make the decision about whether all those things are being done, if the applicant does not have to give any paperwork?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Rachael Hamilton

Can I just interrupt? England is not moving to self-declaration, so what happens then?