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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 21 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you very much.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you, convener. I want to make sure. Can you hear and see me okay?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Excellent. Thanks. I have a couple of questions specifically for SDS colleagues, and I will direct them to Katie Hutton in the first instance.

You might be aware that, when we took evidence last week, some of it was from employers, one of whom flagged up some concerns with FIPS, SDS’s system for registering apprenticeships. The issue that was raised was essentially about how an apprenticeship that was lodged and registered with FIPS could not account for any time served before the point of registration. The example used was that, if they had started an apprentice at their company over the summer but had only now sorted out the FIPS registration, all the time that that apprentice had been with them would not count towards the time-served element of the apprenticeship and would therefore extend the duration of the apprenticeship beyond what would be desirable for either the apprentice or the employer. I have already mentioned the trade unions’ concerns.

In the first instance, could you clarify the technical requirements? Is it possible to register and process an apprenticeship through FIPS and backdate the time served, or does only time that is served from the point of registration count?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you very much for that. I understand the need to register with FIPS. Just to clarify: the reasons that you just cited—HMRC compliance and so on—mean that you could not retrospectively register with FIPS. Someone could nominally have taken on an apprentice and someone with the title of apprentice could be working with an employer, but, until the moment they are registered with FIPS, that cannot count towards their time served.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you very much. You have helpfully clarified the matter for us. I appreciate that.

I have one final question based on what we have heard previously. Are you aware of multiple instances of there being a delay between someone starting an apprenticeship role and their registration? Were you familiar with that issue before it was raised with us last week?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you very much. I will leave it there, convener. That has helpfully clarified the issue for us, and we are grateful to Katie Hutton for that detail.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Thank you, convener. I will address a couple of questions to Katie Hutton from SDS in the first instance, if that is okay; they are about the funding information processing system for apprenticeships. You might be aware that we took some evidence last week from employers and an issue with FIPS was flagged up in relation to the number of hours that an apprentice might complete before being registered on—[Inaudible.]

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

Sorry. Katie, could you start again?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

The context for my question was a wider concern about when it comes to consultation with and the involvement of employers in the development of SDS policy and systems such as FIPS. I used FIPS as an example. In that previous meeting, a wider frustration was expressed about the need to have employers in the room and to give them a voice as systems are developed. Taking on board what you have just said about the involvement of employers in the use of the system, which was very useful, when systems like this are being developed, what kind of user testing and consultation do you do with employers so that they are clear about exactly how it operates, what their role is or is not, and how they should engage with the system and with providers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Ross Greer

How are employers supported to make sure that their apprentices are on FIPS? Forgive me, but I am not familiar with how long the FIPS system has been in operation. I do not know whether it is relatively new or whether it has been around for a while.