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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

We will ask them. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

Thank you for that comprehensive answer, which was very helpful but also very concerning. You mentioned beds in corridors, cleanliness issues, safety issues and staffing at dangerous levels. It is hard to believe that we are talking about the health service of a first-world country; the conditions that you have described make it sound like the health service of a third-world country.

However, I am keen not to scapegoat the staff in the hospitals, who, I am sure, are working in difficult conditions. Is there any evidence that none of this is the fault of the hard-working nursing and caring staff, the cleaners and the caterers—the people who deliver the services in such tough conditions? Is the problem higher up the chain?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

Good morning and thank you for your evidence so far. I have been listening to the session and I read your report with great interest, particularly as a member who has covered the region of Ayrshire and Arran for some nine years now. These issues are not new to anybody who lives in the constituencies that I represent.

I am extremely concerned by the outcomes of your report on a whole range of levels. The most important one that I am worried about is not necessarily the financially precarious position of the board but what it means for patients and people. Ultimately, the health board is not a business. I know that we are using audit language here and talking about operating losses, but we are also talking about health outcomes. What effect does operating at such a loss have operationally on the board’s ability to deliver quality healthcare to the people of Ayrshire and Arran?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

Surely it costs what it costs. I am confused by the language around saying that it is spending more than it should. If people are unwell, they are unwell and they need to be treated. I do not understand this countrywide approach that we are taking to the NHS—the suggestion is almost that it is living beyond its means. That seems outrageous.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

What is it doing wrong? Where are the gaps here? What is it spending money on that it should not? I cannot work it out.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

I have just spotted some figures in your traffic-light system. The 12-week out-patient target is 95 per cent. The Scottish average is 61 per cent, which is shocking anyway, but in March 2024 it was around 61 per cent in NHS Ayrshire and Arran. Over the summer—in July and August—that number dropped to 35 per cent. That basically means that one in three patients were seen within the target. I have a genuine concern that people are dying while waiting for treatment. Is this costing lives?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

I draw your attention to paragraph 14 of the report, which I read with interest. We have spent a lot of time talking about the finances of the board, but it seems that that is not the only issue here. There are concerns about performance, services, quality and the existence of “significant operational pressures”. Could you talk us through the concerns that you identified, other than those to do with the financial problems at NHS Grampian?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

Thank you, Auditor General. How can a hospital run out of beds? Is it that suddenly and very quickly there is an unexpected wave of people who are very unwell or is it because of poor planning and forecasting capacity?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

Thank you. That is a very succinct analysis of the wider problem. Is the solution to the bed issue a new hospital or a new site? You state that there are physical issues in the estate, so the answer to that clearly is a new building, more beds and more people.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jamie Greene

The assurance board has a role to play in all this and will be there for the foreseeable future until things have turned around.

Is the improvement plan forthcoming? Where are we at with that? Has it been signed off? Has it been ratified? Are people happy with it?