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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Okay, so there was no U-turn.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Finally, what would you say is the primary lesson that has been learned from the experience? Section 22 reports are unusual for agencies such as yours. What is your key takeaway to ensure that a future Public Audit Committee will not have to look at another similar report?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Good morning. It will not be a huge surprise to our guests to learn that I will start by covering the article in this morning’s Herald, which I have in front of me. It raises a few questions that I want to pose to you. The first is a point of clarification. It is a newspaper article, so I want you to be able to put comments on the record about the veracity of any claims that are made therein.

On the issue of police pension overpayments, can you clarify or confirm the claims in the story that there has been a U-turn on the issue? How did that come about? For the benefit of anyone watching this session, can you clarify that the SPPA will absolutely not chase anyone for overpayment?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Okay. I do not want to labour the point but it is important that we get the facts on the record, and that has given you the opportunity to do that.

Just to summarise, the good news is that anyone who was overpaid will not have to pay the money back.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Okay. That is helpful.

On a wider point—this was also covered in the article, but it relates to a longer-term issue—my understanding is that, as far back as 2016, which is some time ago, individuals had brought to the agency’s attention some issues and concerns about police pensions in particular. I do not need to get into the details of individual cases, because I appreciate that you will probably not want to talk about individual cases that involve staff members—that is, your staff, not your clients. Did the concerns that were raised at the time relate to miscalculations and subsequent overpayments, or were they separate issues, and have they been dealt with since then?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Okay, thank you for that. Just to clarify, which bit of the story was nonsense?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

That leads to a wider question. What is the culture at the SPPA at the moment? Are there sufficient safeguards for whistleblowers, or anyone in the agency who has concerns, to come forward? Has the culture improved somewhat in the past decade or since you have taken over?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

In the context of police pension ill-health overpayments. I just want to get that on the record for people who may be concerned about that. Is it right that Government ministers have agreed that any costs related to that will come to you and that you will not have to fund them from your current resources?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

In a newspaper article, indeed, which is why—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Jamie Greene

Okay. You do not need to elaborate any further. I am just going with what is in black and white in front of me—